64studio 3.0 x86 Beta3. First impressions

  • Pablo
Posted: Thu, 03/19/2009 - 11:55
Hi! I've installed 64studio 3.0 686 Beta in a spare partition. So far I've done: sudo apt-get udate sudo-apt-get upgrade start jack and setup to 96.000 kHz and 16 frames/period. For the rest, the default setup (latency 0,333 ms) (for testing purposes only). My hardware: $lspci | grep -i audio 05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) #m-audio 2496 $lspci | grep -i vga 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1) $cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6420 @ 2.13GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6420 @ 2.13GHz RAM: 2 GB I suppose maintainers already know all of these little issues and I hope tweaks are on the way. Sound systems are not disabled (I don't know if it's related or not but I suppose so) and from time I hear a noise from the speakers when I have jack (and only jack) running. The good side is that I have had only one xrun in more than ten minutes with -p16 -r96000. I like that timidity is installed by default because it makes 64studio more user friendly but I think it deserves a FAQ entry that more experienced users prefer alternatives that are not hidden and are easier to control. I chose spanish for the installer, the installer doesn't download full language support. Worse is the fact that there is no language support in System -> Administration. This a done by installing one package called "language-selector". Then, when you choose your language it installs all the packages you need to have a (for gnome at least) full support.

Re: ok compiled rakarrack from

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Thu, 05/07/2009 - 18:47
Hi Capoeira, 64studio 3.0 is based on ubuntu 8.04. This means that the majority of the packages come from ubuntu's repositories. And not, ubuntu ones are not in the "third party software" tab of synaptic but in the "ubuntu software" tab, but this does not really matter. There are three official repos for 64studio 3.0, two from ubuntu hardy and the one from 64studio 3.0 beta, above mentioned. These are "deb" repositories. "deb-src" are not normally required but you can add them too. You can check your repositories in: /etc/apt/sources.list and, possibly, in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/other-lists.list The uncommented lines are the active repositories. Check there or post here if you have doubts. Sometimes you add other repositories (unofficial, so to speak) just to add some package you know it's there. Once you have installed, is good to deactivate it, unless you positively know that it is compatible (the case of medibuntu). Sometimes Quentin will put a bleeding edge pacakge in his repository, sometimes you will know there is a package you can install from a project site (the case of wine-hq above mentioned), there are lots of "unofficial" repositories. Enable, update package lists (reload in synaptic), install, disable and update package lists again is what I do. Keeping the official repositories is your best bet for system stability. That said, congratulations on compiling and installing rakarrack! I did it too, there is no rakarrack package in 64studio. Many wish it were and afaict, efforts are being made to package more linux audio apps for Debian. Debian, ubuntu and 64studio would then have these packages, officially. Ubuntu documentation is a good place to learn a lot. linuxmusicians.com is another good place to learn a lot and talk to other fellow musicians. I also use rakarrack, it's great. But let's have this thread for intallation, rather than specific applications. We can discuss them in the "applications" forum. Cheers! Pablo.

ok

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Fri, 05/08/2009 - 13:20
thanks Pablito. Rakarrack is great, yes will check out the forums you mentioned. Greets

ok compiled rakarrack from

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Thu, 05/07/2009 - 02:04
ok compiled rakarrack from source (must be the first time i managed to compile anything. ehehehheheh) but, only for knowing if i have all repros, do you have rakarrack as package?

Re: wineasio and rakarrack

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Wed, 05/06/2009 - 20:24
Hi capoeira, According to my synaptic, wineasio is in the 64studio repository. Are you sure you have this one enabled?: deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports hardy-backports main Anyway, the package from suse can be as good. As for rakarrack, it is working here. Note that it needs the jack daemon. Did you launch Jack Control beforehand? Ah, dssi-vst is not in the repo. I don't know if there is some unofficial .deb package, but compiling from source is not a big deal once you have solved the wine and wine-dev mismatch problem. Just follow the README and the INSTALL instructions. If I remember correctly, all the dependencies are installable from the repos, including dssi-dev. Cheers! Pablo.

F_CK

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Thu, 05/07/2009 - 00:47
i dont know what happened here. i didnt had the 64studio-repros. must be because i installed from HD. ubuntu-repros are only suposed to be at third-party right? i hope i have them all now with deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports hardy-backports main ????? i can't find Rakarrack-package anymore. in wich repro do you have it? yes i lunched jack before, bit it always said: illigal instruction

Rakarrack

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Wed, 05/06/2009 - 18:35
Rakarrack is not working. its the same problem in openSuse

OK

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Wed, 05/06/2009 - 07:03
i got WINEASIO from here as rpm and instaled it using alien: http://stashbox.org/206805/wineasio-0.7.3-3.1.i586.rpm works fine, !!!after installation, you'll have to call "regsvr32 wineasio.dll" (as your audio user, not root) to register the driver.!!!

Developer's Corner - trac.64studio

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Mon, 03/23/2009 - 04:27
Hi Pablo, When you create\edit a ticket it gets posted to the devel mailing list automatically. 64studio is certainly developing\moving at a great pace. I'm thinking the 3.0 release will be one of the best releases to date. Cheers! Dave.

New comments on Beta3

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Sun, 03/22/2009 - 21:40
Hi, I'd like to drop two more comments on beta 3: 1) wine-dev is not up to date with wine version, which means I can't compile dssi-vst without first having to: Getting the winehq key: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - Adding the winehq repository for hardy: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list Force wine version to the one wine-hq offers (which by the way is the same version number). This uninstalls all the other packages related to wine except wineasio (10 of them!) and installs "binfmt-support" (?). I go on. Then I can install wine-dev from the winehq repository with no problems and I end up with three wine packages (from dpkg -l | grep wine): ii wine 1.1.17~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-0ubuntu1 ii wine-dev 1.1.17~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-0ubuntu1 ii wineasio 0.7.4+pljones2-3~hardy1 ASIO to JACK bridge There is no problem with winecfg. For what I care, Alsa is there in the audio tab. My guess is that wine-dev circumvents the need of all of these libwine packages. But I might be wrong in regards to functionalities others than alsa support. Anyway, this is not an issue for me because I've done the same thing in all of my 64studio installs (from 2.0 I think) in the last year or so. "wine-dev version doesn't match wine version " is a well known topic in these forums. But please, this is a big issue for beginners who want to use their VST instruments, which dssi-vst manages wonderfully. Not only have they to compile dssi-vst but also they need to force versions and uninstall incompatible packages... Should I open a ticket or maybe I should write to the user's list? 2) There are two envy24control in the audio menu with different icons, but it's the same command. Thank you for your patience, I'm longing to see a wonderful 64studio 3.0 release. Cheers! Pablo

very nice Pablo

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Wed, 05/06/2009 - 06:12
BUT, after installing the pakages from winehq, wineasio wasnt working. and after i deleted the 3 pakages to make a fresh install, the wineasio-package has gone!!!!!! where can i get wineasio back???? I also need to install dssi-vst. is there a deb-package? or is compiling the only way?

Hi Pablo ;-)

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Thu, 03/19/2009 - 12:27
Hi Pablo, Great to see you up and running ;) The issues should be cleared by the 3.0 release, it's great to see so many users testing\reporting and only good can come of this. I cleared my rosegarden xruns on initial startup by removing timidity, but as you say it really should be installed as default. Sadly the ubuntu version is buggy and I hope it gets backported before the release, Quentin has made a ticket and we'll just have to see what time permits. I'm not missing using the binary nvidia driver at all in fact my Audio system is very happy without it. The language download during install is strange and it needs looking at. All in all it looks like your seeing good results and that's great ;) Edit: Just read your update, we must have posted at the same time ;-) Good point about Grub, yet another issue I hope to see looked at for the release, I know there's a ticket to change the default boot so it halts, to allow arguments to be passed to the kernel, some users need to have this. Cheers! Dave.

Continues

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Thu, 03/19/2009 - 12:16
Sorry, I go on... The installer doesn't have the option (at least I haven't seen it) to not install GRUB in the MBR. Anyway, GRUB is OK with my two other systems (another 64studio and other ubuntu). I like that nautilus-open-terminal is installed by default. It's great help for people who tends to use GUI rather than CLI but still know than the terminal is a must. The system loads very quickly. Best Regards, Pablo