OS XP & 64studio Dual Boot.

  • skullnotions
Posted: Tue, 04/14/2009 - 05:58
Guido wrote: Ref: New upgrades proposed: problems Post: New thread & M-Audio Delta 1010LT Hi Dave Yes I think start new thread about new kernel it's good idea. I should install new sound card before new Kernel. My friend sell an M-Audio Delta 1010LT made in 2006 and then I have this card to try . He went at my home 30 minutes ago ,Then I think to proceeding this way: 1-remove old sound card 2-install new card 3-rapid test of new sound card and if it's ok go to point 4- install new kernel and test various applications & programs. Sincerely I tell you that I'm a newbie in computer music and digital audio , I playing guitar and I have some experience with fruity-loops flstudio. In audio I have only process audio tracks from cleaning and add effects from old tape and LP recording sometimes from live instrument recording using a very simple program on windows. Then I don't know if I'll be a good tester . Bye Guido Ref: Kernel Revision linux-image-2.6.29 Post: video card crash Hi Dave and all other First Happy Easter: my video card Asus 8600 GT silent unfortunately suddenly crashed then at this time it's impossible continue to modify system. Video card is not recognized by bios with audio advise from motherboard . I'm very interested to your last suggests but I can't try them. I'm very disappointed for this , video card is just out of warranty and I had modify it by substitution of his heat sink . Tomorrow all shop are close so I take time to try to solve problem, but if I can't on Tuesday I must buy another video card. About new audio card I can tell only that is was recognized by both OS xp and 64 studio , but it's not this cause of accident.. Sorry I'll continue to follow this thread by my small Asus eeepc with ubuntu8.10. I hope see you later with good news. bye Guido Hi dave I just have read your last post. So you think it's better make a clean install of distro with new sound card already installed into system . First I solve video card problem , maybe tomorrow if a basic model gefroce 9500 or 9600 max price 100€ , I'm not a gamer, and then install new sound card in pc and after make clean install. bye Guido

Shut down Power off

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Tue, 04/21/2009 - 12:51
Hi Guido, acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic These options when added to your menu.list kernel line will be shutting down the computer without acpi and this will mean you'll see a verbose message at shutdown saying *System Halted.* When you see this message it's fine to power of the computer. You may have to hold the button in for a short while before it turns off. 2.6.29-5 The kernel install error you are seeing is the same as before, and the /etc/kernel-img.conf fix should see the kernel install when you run $ sudo apt-get upgrade I haven't got round to trying to install nvidia on the 2.6.29-5 yet, still testing it's performance without it, I maybe will try later today. Cheers! Dave.

nvidia-installer message

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 20:20
Hi Dave The message of nvidia-installer is the same also after the last updates proposed of few minutes ago that I have installed because there wasn't the message of partial upgrade proposed and I have think the problem was solved. After sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade all upgrade was installed but there's problem with " linux-image-2.6.29-1-multimedia-686 and linux-rt " leavede not configured cause problem with dependences. I hope that I haven't create nay problem in my system and now first I look to grub-menu.lst and after try to reboot. Reboot is ok Bye Guido Update: 1-See you next days tommorow probably I'll go to Rome for 2 days. REboot it's not ok system doesn' stop and sometime screen has a a very queeckly flash to black and then return to normal. See post " http://www.64studio.com/node/1084 "

System Checks

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 16:32
Hi Guido, Great:) guido@64studio:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_ice1712 guido@64studio:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [M1010LT ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010LT M Audio Delta 1010LT at 0xec00, irq 10 Now your pci cards have their own IRQ's. This will improve your system performance a lot. Set qjackctl to input device -hw:0 In Envy24control what hardware settings do you have? I use 48000 (Master Clock)... Experiment to find the best for your card. Now edit: $ sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf *Add the next line to the end of the file, and save* kernel.sched_rt_runtime_us = -1 **Kernel linux-source & linux-headers** **These packages are in flux as I type!** You should have your xorg.conf set as "nv" and backed up for future installs. Then I would recommend creating some benchmark\test projects to see how your new system is working before the nvidia binary driver is installed. **Creating Benchmark projects** Benchmark Project: coldduck-unmastered.wav Download: jam-ard-tutorial.tar.gz from here $ tar xvzf jam-ard-tutorial.tar.gz $ cd jam-tut/cold-duck_master01/sounds/ $ oggdec coldduck-unmastered.ogg $ cp coldduck-unmastered.wav ~/ Import coldduck-unmastered.wav into an Ardour project and save to use as a benchmark-test project for comparisons. Create other projects in the software you use to use as benchmarks. e.g. Hydrogen, Rosegarden. Make notes of how your new Sound card works with the present kernel. See Post: System Administration System Logs: In this thread: Cheers! Dave. Update: oops we posted at the same time, reading your paste now!

nvidia-installer message

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 14:55
Hi Dave here the message of nvidia installer, it's very long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154103/ I can't find if there and where the log of boot , or better the message shown during boot, do you know where are ? bye Guido

Done !!!

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 14:08
Hi Dave Just do it all. here results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154079/ Semms it' all ok , no ? Only I have seen some message on Boot , but it' too speed for complete reading.Where are the log of messages shown on boot ? For NVIDIA driver: during install NVIDIA installer show me a meaage about kernel image and source, but now I can tell more about : I try to reinstall it and read exact message and post it here. Bye Guido

Re: Sound & IRQ configuration

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 13:15
Hi Guido, Disable the onboard sound in the bios, then check your sound configuration again by re-running the earlier commands. Set qjackctl by the results returned. If you're not sure post back the results again once you've made the changes in the bios. IRQ's: On a PC run: $ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst Add these entries to the end of the kernel line: acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic check out the ends of the kernel lines here: Reboot: Then post back results: $ cat /proc/interrupts The kbuild package is now in the backports:) we'll test this out once we're done with setting up your system. Cheers! Dave. Note: *Laptops sometimes require acpi.*

A little help

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 13:07
Hi Dave. In your last post oyu mean that I disable on board audio card from boot menu and add some parameter to boot menu ? I don't know use and meanign of this parameters. Can you make an example to do this ?. Disable on board audio card from bios should be an alternative to solve problem in other way without other modify into system ? Is not yet possible to install NVDIA dirver at this time also using tutorial about kbuild ? It's a problem of linux image ? Bye Guido

Sound & IRQ configuration

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 12:00
guido@64studio:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xf9ff8000 irq 22 1 [M1010LT ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010LT M Audio Delta 1010LT at 0xec00, irq 17 guido@64studio:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_hda_intel 1 snd_ice1712 Your M Audio Delta 1010LT at present using (snd_ice1712) input device -hw:1. So if you aren't going to disable (snd_hda_intel) you should set qjackctl to input device -hw:1 for audio work. It would be better to disable onboard sound and use M Audio Delta 1010LTinput device -hw:0 guido@64studio:~$ cat /proc/interrupts You have a lot of hyperthreading and sharing going on there. On a PC I would recommend cleaning up your IRQ's by passing arguements to the kernel at boot by editing the grub menu.list e.g add these options. Here's mine as an example. ro vga=791 acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic These options will clean up your IRQ's and stop them sharing. It's good to use the "e" edit option at the grub menu when you boot up the computer then run $ cat /proc/interrupts to check all is ok before adding the entries to the menu.list permanently. Changing Boot Parameters Temporarily Generally, this is used when you want to try a parameter change to see it is beneficial to your system. When the PC boots up, you will see the Grub menu list. Move to the entry you want to boot. Press 'e' to start editing. Scroll down to the "kernel..." line. The is the line that tells Grub which kernel to boot with and the parameters to be passed to the kernel when it boots are placed at the end of this line. Press 'e' again to edit this line. Move to the end of the line. You will see any existing parameters and can add other new parameters to the end. Parameters are separated by spaces and are mostly either a single word (e.g. nolapic), or an equation (e.g. acpi=off). Once you have added the parameter to the end of the line, press Enter to accept the editing. Then press 'b' to boot using that kernel and those parameters. Remember, this change is not permanent. At next boot, it will be undone. See: Temporarily Edit the GRUB Menu Note: Laptops sometimes require acpi. Post back the results when you're done; $ cat /proc/interrupts Cheers Dave.

New sound card research

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 11:31
Hi Dave here return of command above: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153951/ Envy24 .. it's right..... This afternoon start with nvidia driver. Bye Guido

New SetUp

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Sun, 04/19/2009 - 02:48
Hi Guido, The financial situation is only one aspect of modern living that makes or breaks a family. If these challenges are overcome it truly strengthens relationships and bonds. Here's a historic text that explains some concepts better than I can. It covers martial science but lifestyle is at the core of the document. NINJUTSU HIKETSU BUN Great news regarding your computer set up. I agree that you should play around with your already installed 64studio before reinstalling again. The first thing is to create yourself an xorg.conf something like this for "nv". This is the other backup I have for "nvidia" Once you've backed up your original xorg.conf and have an xorg.conf running "nv" it will be easier in the future to just change "nv" to "nvidia" after binary driver installation. Then start to research your new sound card. Post back the results when you run: $ cat /proc/asound/cards $ cat /proc/asound/modules $ cat /proc/interrupts $ sudo modinfo soundcore Depending on the above returns Make sure jack uses right hw device? e.g. setup - input device -hw:0. Use Envy24 mixer for volume settings etc., Cheers Dave.

Hi guys I just have try to

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sat, 04/18/2009 - 19:37
Hi guys I just have try to reboot and start with 64 studio and surprise : new video card ( with nv driver not original nvidia) and new audio card M-AUDIO Delta 1010LT was recognized by system so I think it' not necessary reinstall distro. Obviously it would better have nvidia driver to have 3D acceleration. Next step I can try to add controls for delta1010LT follow tutorial of alsa prject and talk about in other thread, but tomorrow. Bye Guido

NEW HARDWARE ok on winXP

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sat, 04/18/2009 - 19:15
Hi guys I have just finish install new hardware on xp sp3 and all works fine on xp onlty audio app tested is FLSTudio8 Fruity Loops. Now I'm ready to start with neew and clean install of 64 studio See oyu later for news bye Guido

NEW HARDWARE SET

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Thu, 04/16/2009 - 20:19
Hi my hardware set will be : 64STUDIO-3alpha3;Xp Home SP3 ; E8200@2,66GHz, ASUS P5K-SE , 2GB CORSAIR 800MHz DDR2 , 2x HD 250GB Sata , FORTRON GREEN 500W , ASUS GeForce 9500GTOC 512MB-ddr3 , Acer AL1751, DVD LG,Netgear834gt+d-link547;Zen Mosaic+EP630;AKG 171S And last M-AUDIO 1010LT PCI See you later Bye Guido

Good luck all !!!

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Thu, 04/16/2009 - 20:13
Hi guya also far from hoem I take time to write here. I'm disappointed to financial situation I and I hope nealy future it's better for al of us. I hope also that what's happen helpful us to understand modern life style maybe it' not correct and we have run quickly for too time without known final destination. See you in the weekedn after or during install new hardware. Bye Guido

NE England economic climate

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Thu, 04/16/2009 - 12:08
Good, take your time when setting up the new system. We are here to help if we can. The community is at the heart of GNU\Linux, and is probably it's greatest asset. You've gotta luv the forum;) North East England sees its roots in fishing, mining and the steel industries. As a child I remember seeing many many fishing boats going out at high tide. Mining and steel production was also a massive part of communal life. All diminished now and the effects are obvious throughout the area. One side of my family goes back through generations of fishermen, the other were steel men and ship builders. You went into a shop and items might have gone up by a penny or twopence, now things go up by 50 pence (half a pound). The fat cat businessmen and others claim that some of these laid off people are scroungers for claiming benefits whilst learning new skills, but the truth is many of these fat cats pay 10% into the Country and in reality claim back 20% with fiddles, expenses etc., Not all, but many do... Some businessmen contribute constantly back into the system, because they remember their roots. I have my own clinic here so I see first hand the effects of poor nutrition and many broken families. Some say they have no money, but in reality it means they haven't been to the speed bank yet. Others go without... This family has learned to live a simple life, and it's probably the best defence when looking at the bigger picture. The financial situation has hit the vulnerable hard here, old and young alike. It's not all doom and gloom, new ventures spring up and there's always a core of good people who put other people's needs first, hard times brings out the best in some people. Cheers! Dave.

Winter economic climate

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 04/16/2009 - 05:22
The recent world financial problems have affected us all in some way or another... Here in South-Africa we are about 6 months behind, and we are only now beginning to feel the effects. The entertainment and recording industry is also hit, because it is seen as "non-essential" and people cut back on the little luxuries first...

I make install hardware & software in next weekend

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Wed, 04/15/2009 - 19:58
Hi Dave New video card is available tomorrow ,but unfortunately I'm far form my home for work and I think to retunr on friday in the evening , so I make install hardware & software in next weekend. As alsways thanks for suggests. You excuse me for follow off-topic , but I have a question not about 64studio : where you live actual world crisys is noticed by people ? .Here in Italy seems to all world of work in all acitvities goes away at very slow motion and very lot of people is out of work or work not all days. Excuse for this OT but this world situation is very bad for all ,I think. Bye Guido

More system information

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Wed, 04/15/2009 - 08:16
Hi Guido, Once you have XP up and running with all cards in place and you're happy with the setup. I would recommend a clean 64studio beta3 so it finds XP and sets up grub menu.list. Before you do the 64studio install post back details of your hardware set up now. I'm thinking you now have your new graphics card? with M-Audio Delta 1010LT sound card. You shouldn't need to compile alsa, I use ice1712 here and it auto configures fine at install. Onboard sound is disabled. Post back the results when you run: $ cat /proc/asound/cards $ cat /proc/asound/modules $ cat /proc/interrupts $ sudo modinfo soundcore Make sure jack uses right hw device? setup - input device -hw:0. Use Envy24 mixer for volume settings etc., Cheers! Dave.

video card crash

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Tue, 04/14/2009 - 20:17
Hi card show malfuction before I change audio . In fact It's happen some times in last days during my test with an Audiotrack maya m44mkII thaT's no compatible with linux and ALSA ,( also seems the same of esi maya m44kII but it's not true) Sometimes on boot or reboot during various insallation of 64 studio my pc shows black screen with terrific audio beep one long and three short beep tha's mean no vga detected. So I think this problem has far origin. I have tried to boot disconnectin all card but bios does the same message. I tell you true when i install old video card about 18 moths ago I have chande passive coolre with an Artic cooling Accelero S1, please note that this card also in original config is large two slot so it's more nearly to the first PCI card and I haave added a fan put air on it. temperature of card was alway under 55°C degrees that's ok., but maybe this has made the card crash. New video card is one slot large so it has better cooling. Before last crash I have turn off on-board audio card , but after I have reboot system many times. In next day I have new video card and after know true and begging with audio card test first and after kenel and other. Question: What the right way to install new Alsa driver ? -Must I compile from soource with Alsa tutorial ? -Is it better uninstall Alsa present in system from Synaptic ? -Install new Alsa adding Debian testing or unstable repo ?but in this way it's impossible config Alsa for ice1712.For thos see Alsa project. Bye Guido ' 9

Notes: DAW SetUp.

  • skullnotions
  • 09/29/07
  • Tue, 04/14/2009 - 06:25
Hi Guido, You may know these things already, but just in case you don't, here's my thoughts. When reading through *New upgrades proposed: problems* thread there are clues that you were having problems with installs. The Asus 8600 GT crashed when the M-Audio Delta 1010LT was introduced into the system. It could be just a coincidence but also it's something to think about. Again this information is old, in fact my eldest son told me these things many years ago, so if anyone knows more recent advice please post and update the information. 1) The graphics card goes in the first slot and should be installed on the system first without other hardware cards present. Once the graphics card is installed. Install the other cards into their slots. So if this is still right, you should remove the soundcard and boot into XP with just the graphics card in place. Then when done place the sound card into its slot and check the graphics & audio are not sharing an IRQ. If they are move the soundcard into a different slot. What happens if you boot XP with just the Asus 8600 GT installed? What audio settings are configured in the BIOS? Cheers! Dave. Ref: Low-Latency HOWTO (see sharing IRQ's) Update: My first PC had a gamers graphics card installed to begin with and it was only by replacing it with another less power hungry one did I get the full potential of the audio performance. I'm a guitarist also:) One of my favourite sites: