64 Studio vs. Ubuntu Studio

  • duffrecords
Posted: Mon, 05/11/2009 - 21:49
I'm currently running Ubuntu Studio 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and I notice 64 Studio 3.0 will also be based on Hardy. What sort of differences should I expect to see by installing 64 Studio?

Tapani, Have a good

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Mon, 05/25/2009 - 20:35
Tapani, Have a good trip. Quentin, Did the team schedule to package one multimedia player for jack (vlc, mplayer, audacious), or will you create a script so Pulse Audio would automatically connect to jack so we can use Banshee, or something like that ? Toine

Upgrade script

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Sun, 05/24/2009 - 08:38
Quentin: Yes, I think that a script for automated upgrade from Hardy/Mint would be a good idea. Unfortunately, I cannot dedicate time for writing it (i'm not very experienced, so it would take more efforts) and most of all, I am soon leaving to Tanzania for a couple of months, I could not take care of maintaining it. So, if somebody wants to write such script, thumbs up! Toine: Thank you for your valuable feedback! It is good to know that it really works with Hardy too. I hope that someone also finds a solution to the error that 64studio metapackage gives in Hardy/Mint upgrade (http://www.64studio.com/node/1150 third post). All the best, Tapani

Quentin, I tested migrating

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Sat, 05/23/2009 - 23:18
Quentin, I tested migrating from Mint and from Hardy. For myself, I use Ubuntu for more than 4 years now, I think. So I know it more, and it my preference. I can confirm that the howto for Mint works with Hardy. I get the error 1 with 64Studio package too. What to say: it loads well, it fast to use, very low latency is available for hours, just have some x-runs when browsing the web while having an Ardour session open. It's great. I just miss the lastest version of Gnome-Do, actually, but I can live without it ;-) I have to work more to see if there are some problems. The repositories miss the jack plugin of VLC, and Audacious crash when connecting to Jackd. So for audio use, it is good, but for common multimedia tasks, it is not the "top". More comment to come. Toine

Mint

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Sat, 05/23/2009 - 17:49
Hi Toine, It seems that mint is a brand engineered version of ubuntu, with some extra eye candy applied. You should be fine using the mint instruction on a standard hardy install. Creating a script to do all the required steps should not be too hard to do. You basically have to do the complete conversion process in the terminal, and recall your bash history. This should result in a script that can do all in one step... Cheers, Q

t_sysimetsa, I'll try to

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Tue, 05/19/2009 - 21:45
t_sysimetsa, I'll try to have a look at that tomorrow evening. And I'll try Linux Mint, to see how it is. Be sure that I will provide feedback.

Upgrading Hardy to 64 Studio 3.0

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Sat, 05/23/2009 - 07:43
.... and feedback is appreciated, I have only tested this tutorial on 64-bit Mint 5.

Upgrading Mint 5 to 64 Studio 3.0

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Sat, 05/23/2009 - 07:42
Hi Toine, Based on Quentin's instructions I wrote a tutorial for upgrading Linux Mint 5 (which is based on Hardy too) to 64 Studio 3.0. It is here:

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&p=151717#p151717

Guido, I know enough to use

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Mon, 05/18/2009 - 23:25
Guido, I know enough to use the good repositories, thanks for your advice, Guido, but I don't want to waste too much time on this: learning which meta-package to install, what to tweak to get the good Gnome config, and that sort of things. That's why I was just complaining that 64Studio 3.0 beta install disk don't work. Too bad. Quentin, or someone who know well that stuff, would it be possible to have a kind of script that will transform a Ubuntu Hardy install into a 64 Studio 3.0 beta, in an easy way? Toine

Hi ttonie oyu can use Ubuntu

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Mon, 05/18/2009 - 18:54
Hi ttonie oyu can use Ubuntu Hardy repo 8.04 not actual 9.04 Jaunty. Other way you can have various problem. Check on forum about using repo Ubuntu, Debian ect... Bye Guido

And I can't install : there

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Sun, 05/17/2009 - 16:12
And I can't install : there is an error, it is not detected as a ubuntu cd install by the installer, so it fails... too bad, I'll check on the forum if it possible to solve the issue.

As my main concern is about

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Sun, 05/17/2009 - 15:00
As my main concern is about the installer, I am going to download the 3.0 preview and see how it installs. Then, I'll make some tests and see what is the best : using the 64 Studio repositories under Ubuntu, or the inverse. Toine

So it means that It is

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Sun, 05/17/2009 - 00:15
So it means that It is possible to use 64 Studio 3.0 kernel or packages in Ubuntu, or Ubuntu packages in 64 Studio, actually? It is just a technical question, in order to understand the way 64 Studio is produced. But of course, I expect that the -rt kernel optimised by the 64 Studio team is far better than the "amateur" one done for Ubuntu Studio, wich is not stable at all. I just hope that the kernel done by 64 Studio team is as good as Ubuntu's about hardware support. That was the problem of 64 Studio 2.1 installer, IMHO.

Hi ttoine, I'm not an expert

  • madforthenet
  • 03/10/09
  • Sat, 05/16/2009 - 18:27
Hi ttoine, I'm not an expert in LInux and Audio, I can tell you that the great difference is stability in kernel and then in application. This is true in particular if you open most appl in the same time such Ardour and various effect and instrument. IMHO for my experience infact on my pc I see more crash on UbuntuStudio than 64Studio. On 64studio with last kernel you don't use 3D acc with nvidia driver and this cuold be a limit for someone to use. Bye Guido

Quentin, So, in large, you

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Sat, 05/16/2009 - 16:08
Quentin, So, in large, you start from Ubuntu Hardy, you use a default Gnome configuration (not the same one than Ubuntu, nor Ubuntu Studio), you supply a well optimised -rt kernel and up to date applications packages (exemple: Ardour 2.8). Do you schedule a live installation cd, like Ubuntu? Is it that? Or am I wrong? Toine

Ditto

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 05/14/2009 - 17:04
I feel your pain brother... If all the promise 3.0 has shown so far can be realised, it is going to kick a collective of buts, across platforms...

64studio 3

  • shakky
  • 03/15/09
  • Thu, 05/14/2009 - 14:38
How much longer is it going to be for the final release. I have been using 64studio for over a month now, and I love it. Have trouble starting up and closing down, but once its up its brilliant. I'm trying everso hard to be patient, but its not easy!! Rob

jmccanna

  • jmccanna
  • 03/04/09
  • Tue, 05/12/2009 - 15:55
Hi Quentin, Speaking of release time :) Any hints as to how soon? This is pretty darn exciting! James

Differences.

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Tue, 05/12/2009 - 05:38
The first difference you will notice is that the window manager, Gnome, is back to its Debian defaults. The first user, or administrator, has sudo access without having to enter the password all the time. Secondary users will need the password. The kernel is the heart of the system, and should be honed to perfection by release time. All the nagging bugs are being squashed, and you should see vastly improved stability over your US 8.04 system. Additionally Ubuntu 8.04 is a long time support platform, meaning that we will have another 2 years of security updates from the ubuntu security team. These are some of the things you should notice... more below the hood!