showing my work and progress here, hope somebody likes ;-)

added another track (first song i wrote) http://palcomp3.cifraclub.terra.com.br/FabioCapoeira

thanks scribe63, i allready read about that "trick", will try that out, on next music; this one i only make new version when i have a decent mic.

jawara
You can make the vocal sound phatter/bigger by just,
duplicating the vocal track,
add a slight delay of the track's timeline,
and control the levels.
You can do some pith shifting also.
I dig what you are saying about no drums, but just the brazilian percussions.
Check out Micheal Jackson "They Don't Care About Us"
Hook It Up
PEACE,

"There is not a single thing I did in the past that I can listen to without cringing at at leat one point." yes, must be the ears which are getting better. but it kind of disanimates, seams i am getting never to a decent sound. but then i know i will

Hi C, There is not a single thing I did in the past that I can listen to without cringing at at leat one point. This is a good thing, because it means I am getting better, and even better because other people do to react the same way I do when they hear my old stuff. I'll listen to your track tomorrow when I have some fresh internet bandwidth to blow... Cheers, Quentin

hearing it now again, it sound still very bad. however, i made an other song. check it out if you like. i think i am getting better slowly: http://palcomp3.cifraclub.terra.com.br/FabioCapoeira/

did a new version i didnt re-record the vocal because i still dont have real mic. but i have a audio-interface now wich helped me do a better mix, i hope (bit still without monitors; have to use sennheiser-phones) those vocoder-parts hurt a bit in the ears, thats the shitty mic too when getting a decent mic, i will do a final-version i hope i eveluated a bit, i am learning a lot. leave comment, what did you like? even more important, what not? http://palcomp3.cifraclub.terra.com.br/FabioCapoeira/

Hi benzene, thank you for hearing and commenting. it is allready a plan to lookover that 2nd bass-line. There was someone who proposed to use the same instrument (the moog-like) as in 1st bassline. I think this will sound better; and i will overlook the notes. i also think in some parts it sound a bit strange what you said about the transition i am still trying to understand. you are saying that it changes from major to minor when the 2nd vocal part begins? i will sensibelize my ears for that when remaking the 2nd bass-line i will play around with panning some more, EQ and fft too, but i still have to learn much greets

I had no idea that the pound sign caused the increase in font size. I was not trying to shout. Apologies... Ben

Sound quality is very good. You have a great singing voice. A bit of advice for your production version: 1) Watch those minor changes in the vocals. You seem to be singing a transition from a major scale to a minor scale. With 2 bass parts, that change really needs to be reinforced by the bass in order to sound right. If it's done improperly it will sound like you're singing a "sour" note, when in fact you are perfectly in key. I think the bass sequencing there is throwing off your vocal confidence- just my opinion. 2) A huge problem I've encountered in creating music with multiple bass parts is equalization. I can't tell you how to separate bass tonalities right to get effective counterpoint. You do the counterpoint with bass parts really well. Maybe try the FFT Filter or EQ to separate the parts. 3) Never underestimate the power of panning your tracks. I get away with insane multitrack bass compositions through experimenting with tones, FFT, EQ and panning. I look forward to hearing the finished product. ps. The percussion is wicked. Ben (edit-syntax-Dave:)

oh, thanks for helping me Scribe63 the vocals is my major problem, that onboard-soundcard together with my ECM-DS70P Mic from Sony give me a verry thin sound. there are allready many effects in this version to make it phater as one can read here: http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1069 but i will try to make it more phater (dificult, because it is causing noise and distorsion), maybe more tunel-amp and a maximizer. will try to not go out of pitch ;-) i also have the problem that i only can use my stereo-mic in mono "apenas palavras" means "only words" yes, the 2 basslines are Zynaddsubfx you are the first who liked the brass :-) i don't like it, i want it to sound like real brass. i am learning now how to use the samples better, got kick-ass brass now, thats the next goal. the idea of this song is to mix some funky sond with genuine brazilian percussion. Actualy i don't want drums in this song, i think brazilian percussion is rich enough. But i will give it a try. I also got some tips in a forum from brazilian professional and semi-professional producers, i think this is getting phatttttt. I don't now if it would be waste of time if you would master this, until i get some better hardware, but we will see. I would like to thank you for your comment, and you will hear next version soon. greets

jawara Listened to "apenas palavras" Don't know what it means, but i comprehend the language of musical sounds. The percussions are wicked and groovy, the brass sounds good. Like the merging of the two basslines, sounds like zynaddsubfx soft synth. The vocoder part is a good idea. The lead vocals is good, but it needs work, in some part it goes out of pitch around where the basses merge. Also, see if you can make the lead vocals a little more phat and smooth, it sound a bit brittle and course. Also maybe a drumkit coming in on the second verse to beef up the rhythm and make it snap some more. Not bad for a celeron processor, and making the best out of what you have. Would love to hear it when it is polished and finished, i can master it for you, and or hit you with a drumkit pattern. Keep Up The Good Work.