Recommended method for updating?

  • angelsguitar
Posted: Tue, 08/18/2009 - 20:53
Hi. I just installed 64Studio 3 Beta 3 on a Toshiba laptop I have. If I use the Update Manager and do a "check" (the same as a sudo apt-get update on command line), it asks me if I want to make a partial update. If I agree, after a while it complains that there is no ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc so it can not continue. It is obvious that the *-desktop packages were removed because this is not exactly an Ubuntu distro. My question is: Should I update the packages or leave them as they are, just installing anything extra that I might need? If updating is posible, what's the best way to do it, so I don't mess up? I'm asking because last time I tried the upgrade (I did not use the partial upgrade, but just marked all upgrades on Synaptic Manager) I messed up my installation - basically ended with a basic Hardy configuration (even the desktop was changed) instead of the 64Studio one. Also, it is recommended to mark the Hardy security updates checkmark on the updates section of Software Sources? Thanks for the help.

"However, I still can't

  • capoeira
  • 05/01/09
  • Wed, 08/19/2009 - 13:10
"However, I still can't upgrade jack; if I try it, ardour, 64studio and other packages get unistalled. Is there some workaround for this?" i confirm this

Ok, I know I was advised not

  • angelsguitar
  • 12/22/07
  • Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:35
Ok, I know I was advised not to upgrade, but I couldn't resist the temptation to find out what went wrong the first time. After all, this is a testing partition, so I went ahead a tried it again. Well, this time I succeded at the upgrade, and confirmed what I believed was the problem. Seems that, when I tried the upgrade the first time, the package "64studio" got uninstalled, so all the basic configuration of 64 Studio 3 got lost, leaving me with a "Hardy" basic system. I think it has to do with the new jack version on Quentin's repo: somehow when I activate Quentin's repo and try to upgrade jack, the package "64studio" (along with some others, like ardour and linux-rt) gets uninstalled. What I did was to do the upgrade first (I did not use the smart upgrade, but rather just opened Synaptic and marked all upgrades) without activating Quentin's repo. The package "linux-rt" still gets unistalled, but since this is a metapackage and the rt kernels where still there after the upgrade, I did not have any problems after that. I even have the hardy security updates activated and had not ran into problems. Just after the upgrade completed, I activated Quentin's repo and installed his most recent kernel. However, I still can't upgrade jack; if I try it, ardour, 64studio and other packages get unistalled. Is there some workaround for this? Just a note that may be of help to developers: All this seems to happen only on the 32bit version of 64 Studio 3 Beta 3. I'm using the 64bit version on two other computers, update the packages regularly, and never had this problem.

Thanks Quentin. I'll just

  • angelsguitar
  • 12/22/07
  • Tue, 08/18/2009 - 23:41
Thanks Quentin. I'll just leave everything as it is (except for your kernels, which I've been using with great results, by the way). Seems the old saying applies here: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"


  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Tue, 08/18/2009 - 21:03
Hi Angel. Do not upgrade. Only update hardy packages. It seems like it wants to upgrade to something higher than hardy, which is not a good idea... Cheers, Q


  • system
  • 08/21/07
  • Tue, 08/18/2009 - 22:27
Thanks for confirming that Quentin! We get these reminders popping up off the dock all the time and today it was jack updates which might be tempting... jonathan adams leonard