64Studio 3 Beta 3 Install Will Not Boot

  • kris12ax7
Posted: Mon, 01/25/2010 - 23:30
Hi, I am new to 64Studio. I built up a new computer with: | Asus M4A77TD Pro Motherboard | AMD Phenom II X4 925 CPU | G.Skill DDR3 1600 2 x 2 GB RAM | Powercolor Radeon 3450 256 MB Video Card | Western Digital Caviar 500 GB Hard Drive | Western Digital Caviar 250 GB Hard Drive (from my old JAD/XP box) | M-Audio Delta 1010 LT Audio Interface (from my old JAD/XP box) Does any of the hardware junp out as "incompatible" with 64studio or Linux in general? I installed using a DVD burned from the AMD beta 3 ISO. I checked the MD5 checksum before burning and verified the DVD after burning. I installed and the install went fine, but when I go to bood, it stops booting after writing a whole bunch of text. The thing is, I can't read it all as it scrolls by quickly. How do I store the boot text to a file so that I can read it? I imagine there is a command that I can insert into the boot script (or whatever) in GRUB. I googled and cannot find it. Thanks for your help! Also, I would like to partition my drives so that I have the operating system on the 500 GB drive, and the music files I am recording on another drive. Is this a good idea? Where should the user files and everything else go? Thanks again. Kris

same issue

  • sonicolonic
  • 02/23/10
  • Mon, 04/12/2010 - 20:53
I tried UbuntuStudio (did my first expert install) and that installed fine. I haven't tested all of the features but will in the next day or two. One thing though, it ended up putting both my soundcards on the same IRQ and jack only sees one of them. So I need to sort that out first. I'll probably be recording on US tomorrow but if I find the time I'll reinstall 3beta3 and see if it's actually a hard drive pointer error. I have had that issue before with 2.1 and it stops and brings me back to grub and I can edit it and it boots fine. But, this issue with 3beta3 looks like a definite crash. The system is unresponsive after blasting a screen full of I don't know what. I'm no Linux programmer, but I've done a little programming in the past, and I've looked closely at a lot of detailed Linux output/files/scripts and I just didn't recognize anything. Only something about a trace. ~Brian

Tried Mint, Didn't Boot Either. Using Ubuntu Studio for Now

  • kris12ax7
  • 01/25/10
  • Fri, 02/05/2010 - 04:39
Hi Quentin, I tried those instructions, but the Linux Mint wouldn't boot, either. I was getting reall anxios, so I tried out ubuntu studio, and it worked well right away. I think I will use it for now and maybe try 64studio when 3 is officially released. Thanks for your help; I really appreciate it. Time to make some music! Kris

When you say wouldn't boot

  • DigitalSwitchblade
  • 12/17/08
  • Thu, 02/25/2010 - 05:42
When you say wouldn't boot .. are you talking about a grub error or just sitting on a black screen ? I had the same issue until I looked at the boot device and looking at how it set up the disc order... could be as simple as making sure the boot drive is hda1 or sda1. Sounds trivial sure .. but it was the root of my problems .. now it works fine .. Best Regards ..

Workaround

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 01/29/2010 - 05:10

One of our long time users (Tapani Sysimetsa) compiled this how-to to convert Linux Mint 5.0 LTS into 64 Studio.

These instructions would also be valid on a default Ubuntu Hardy install as well. The only difference I would suggest is to rather install the 2.6.31.6-RT19 kernel from my repository.

Give it a shot.

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&p=151717#p151717

Won't Start-up-->kernel/driver incompatibility

  • kris12ax7
  • 01/25/10
  • Thu, 01/28/2010 - 23:12
Thanks for the information, it validates what I was thinking as far as partitioning goes. What do you think as far as the startup problem? -the install appeared to go smoothly -64studio won't boot normally or in recovery mode -Ubuntu 9.10 live CD works well What are my next steps? I could always install ubuntustudio, but I would prefer a more stable, "it just keeps working" distro. Thanks again for your the advice!

Should be fine

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 01/28/2010 - 20:57
The reason why i have my home on a separate drive is because of 1) Historic reasons (Started off with the two 160G drives: one for root and swap, and one for Home. It was quickly revised though.) 2) To make my samples banks react quicker. Some people are fine with having a single drive...

Driver Incompatibility with RT Kernel

  • kris12ax7
  • 01/25/10
  • Thu, 01/28/2010 - 17:25
Since the Live CD worked, how can I tell if this is a driver/RT kernel incompatibility issue? What kind of workaround might be required? Thanks! PS: I am thinking of having the system on the 500 GB SATA and the audio on the 250 GB SATA. How would a setup like this work? 500 GB: 50 G / 8 G swap 50 G unpartitioned room for test install rest of drive /home 250 GB: all /audio I could then use the 250 GB for active projects, and the /home for storage and project backup. Would it be safe for /home to be on the same physical drive as the / and test install? If I wanted to change distros or something, I could just reinstallin either the unpartitioned or root, correct? Thanks again!

Partitioning

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 01/28/2010 - 05:18

I have my system set up like this currently:

1TB SATA drive partitioned as follows -
40G /
4G swap
rest /home/qharley/data

160G SATA drive as /home

160 SATA drive as /audio

In this setup I use /home and ~/data as project storage and backup, while the active projects are on the /audio drive. My samples lives on ~/samples (on the first 160G drive) so that it is situated on a different fast drive from my Ardour projects.

Of course I have a couple of external large capacity drives that I use for backing up completed projects. You never know when someone may come looking for it...

Works well for me.

Message from Ubuntu 9.10

  • kris12ax7
  • 01/25/10
  • Thu, 01/28/2010 - 04:44
Hi Quentin, Thanks for the message. Since writing, I attempted starting 64studio in single user mode, which didn't work. The Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD works well, so I guess there may be a driver incompatibility with the RT kernel. I hope that using the 9.10 isn't a problem (I have lots of blank CD's, though). What is the best partition setup for two drives? I would like to be able to upgrade/re-install/test-other-distros, so should I leave a blank partition on my system drive (the 500 GB one)? On what drive should swap, home, etc go? Should I have a separate partition just for Ardour, Hydrogen, and Rosegarden files? Thanks for your help! Kris

Compatibility

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Wed, 01/27/2010 - 05:05
Hi Kris, Nothing seems out of place on first glance. Try to download the ubuntu Hardy installer cd, and see if the live cd will run on your system. If it does, you might have a driver incompatibility with our RT kernel. If this is the case we will have to work out a workaround for you. If it does not work, you might have to wait for the latest beta release, which is reported to be Karmic based, and should support your hardware without any issues Regarding your questions about the hard drives, this is the exact way I have my system set up. It is always a good idea to keep your media drives separate to prevent system services interrupting your precious data stream bandwidth, causing unnecessary x-runs (audio buffer under runs) Cheers, Quentin

Any other suggestions would

  • kris12ax7
  • 01/25/10
  • Mon, 01/25/2010 - 23:33
Any other suggestions would be appreciated and considered. Thanks! Kris

Does the last line say

  • DigitalSwitchblade
  • 12/17/08
  • Thu, 02/25/2010 - 05:46
Does the last line say "Waiting for Filesystem" by any chance ?

same problem

  • sonicolonic
  • 02/23/10
  • Sun, 04/11/2010 - 15:23
I haven't tried UbuntuStudio to see if it's a driver conflict, but I have the EXACT same problem on a new system I built. Grub boots but instead of loading the OS it ends in a trace with a bunch of text and numbers and is unresponsive, even though the install goes fine. If I can borrow a digital camera I'll take a picture so you can see what the last output is. Here's the system. GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK) AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 80gb WD Caviar Blue Sata system drive (WD800AAJS) 320gb WD Caviar SE Sata storage drive (WD3200KS) Pioneer DVDRW (DVR-110DBK) I've had 2.1 running (@ 2 different times on different systems as well as DeMuDi) on it but couldn't update or uninstall jackd to install jackdmp (or even to compile a newer version of jackd) as I'm trying to sync 2 soundcards using the alsa_in/out commands, and also couldn't upgrade 64studio via Synaptic. I'm not the most Linux savvy but I've tried a lot of different things and am wide open to suggestions. I already broke my working 2.1 install trying so I'm basically at square one. I'll try ubuntustudio and hardy tonight and report how that goes. If I get another distro running, I'll bring it back to the recording space this week and test it out, see if I can sync my 2 soundcards (ice1712 and HDSP, I'm starting to look into using envy24control and hdspconf to configure the spdif conx for hardware sync, but still don't understand how to configure jack to see them as one) which has been the whole reason for breaking my 2.1 install. Any other ideas though? Thanks! ~Brian PS ~ For some reason, I've been erroneously waiting for weeks to hear back from the admin to approve my account... not sure why or what happened there. Tried it today, reset my password and Here I am... finally!