Live cd works.. but impossible to install from install dvd

  • ttoine
Posted: Sun, 11/25/2007 - 16:29
Is there a way to install 64Studio from the live cd ? Or what the other ways to install 64Studio than the install dvd, wich don't find my sata disks ? Toine PS : my main OS is Ubuntu Linux for more than 2 years, and it works well on my workstation. But for audio, I would like to work with a distribution more optimised than Ubuntu Studio.

Try using the Alternate

  • beckie (not verified)
  • Fri, 06/27/2008 - 07:17
Try using the Alternate Install CD - It works great for older machines. It's in the Downloads section, the third option (after Desktop & Server). It worked for me.

how to get around the problem...

  • Abbott
  • 02/28/08
  • Thu, 02/28/2008 - 05:59
I took a slight page out of AnatomicJC's book: -if you happen to have one, install 64Studio to a flash stick or USB hard drive (using a seperate x64 computer... i used my desktop, for instance) -once that is complete, use Ghost 4 Linux ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ) in Click'n'Clone mode (when the command prompt comes up, type in "g4l" to start the app) to clone the drive to your laptop/desktop which is having problems - note that this will take several hours, as it copies the data bit by bit. -after the process is completed, and before you exit from G4L, if need be, fix the grub boot menu (and/or install grub) (use a live cd of sorts or some other method - i already had it because of trying various distros) -boot into 64Studio (yay!) -if your desktop doesnt load the Gnome start menu, right click > open terminal > start aptitude -update the package lists, then select the upgradeable list, and upgrade everything, then restart, and it should work correctly -Abbott

Change Motherboard...

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Fri, 02/15/2008 - 15:54
What a great idea, it is just a bit expensive : I own an Asus Deluxe mother board, just bought for that kind of purpose... And it works very well with some other Linux distributions. So what about having an updated installer ? Toine

I install 64studio and it's

  • itit
  • 02/14/08
  • Thu, 02/14/2008 - 15:43
I install 64studio and it's workin well. May be you should change motherboard ___ Indiana mobile homes

Change of machine?

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 01/18/2008 - 05:38
64studio was originally built to provide a stable native 64bit linux OS to the audio world. The machines targeted had (at least) a Athlon64 in it. If you take the current price for a brand new DVD-R drive (R300 here - that's about 43 USD - and in South Africa) it is hard to think that you want to get a Mac as an alternative... My machine is an "Ordinary machine" to 64studio. It has: AMD Athlon x2 3800+, 2Gig Ram, Pro sound card (RME Hammerfall), 1x DL DVD RW drive (Sony), 3x160gig SATA Hard disk drives. It was relatively cheap to build it here in South-Africa, and I don't think you will pay much more anywhere else (probably much less...) Here, the special machines are the old ones, and ones using 32bit processors, etc. one ISO is easier to make and maintain, and besides, CD is going to join 3.25in Floppy drives in the museums soon as a data storage media... we'll use it for music only! Cheers

Suggestions about booting 64studio on ordinary machines.

  • studiototo
  • 01/16/08
  • Thu, 01/17/2008 - 03:46
yes, ordinary machines have always booted usual CDs. if 1 CD becomes too short, please could you release the install on 2 CDs... is it difficult to make ? it would be nice too to be able to boot from the .iso written on a usb stick. linux and 64studio should stick to the concept that free software also means accessible to most people, including the non-minted. booting from a CD was always ok, so please carry on this method or if need to change my machine i will get a macintosh. :( studiototo

hands dirty

  • fnnffn@gmail.com
  • 01/14/08
  • Tue, 01/15/2008 - 22:32
hmm... well... hands dirty... why not... Seems like I did that in a previous life. OK, I tried to download the source yesterday, but ran into some problems with timeouts. Some ftp not responing... gave up and went to bed. Could you please direct me to a good HowTo and advice on how to set the apt configurations correctly to download the 64studio source? I tried to follow the Falkotimme.com Howto but as I said above I ran into some timouts yesterday. Best regard Jeppe Gothenburg, Sweden PS. Falkotime Howto can be found here. http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ DS

2.1

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Tue, 01/15/2008 - 14:56
The 2.1 release is so close now... But if you want to get your hands dirty, be my guest. There is no better way to learn about linux than to tinker a bit. Cheers

I did it !!

  • AnatomicJC
  • 01/14/08
  • Mon, 01/14/2008 - 11:15
It was hard for me to install 64studio from DVD, I can't emulate IDE in the BIOS settings of my laptop (Dell Inspiron 9300). I installed Debian Etch and tried to upgrade to 64studio but... I was not sure of the install... So : * In Debian Etch, I installed VirtualBox. * I installed 64studio in VirtualBox * From 64studio in VirtualBox, I backup my install with rsync and ssh on an other PC (I think it works with External Hard Disk but I don't have one on the hand) => rsync -a / -e ssh user@local_pc:/backup_dir * I reboot my laptop with a live-cd to format it. * And from this live-cd, I restore my backup. I mount my sda1 partition => mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 and restore => rsync -a -e ssh user@local_pc:/backup_dir /mnt/sda1 * Next, I edited the /etc/fstab to remplace hdX by sdX and /boot/grub/menu.lst to correct the boot option (hdX => sdX) * Final lap, restore the MBR => read the first comment on http://linuxfr.org/forums/10/13676.html

64studio 2.1 RC's coming soon

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 01/10/2008 - 19:10
Free is killing tickets 3 at a time at the moment, now that the Trinity project is on the back burner for the time being... I think we should see a Release candidate for the much anticipated 2.1 release soon. If I am not mistaken (which I am sometimes unfortunately) the 2.1 release has a new installer kernel, that should see those troublesome SATA drives Cheers!

I had similar problem, installer not detecting my SATA drive

  • fnnffn@gmail.com
  • 01/14/08
  • Mon, 01/14/2008 - 23:18
I Worked around the SATA drive not beeing detected by the installer by installing an old IDE (PATA) disk (28 GB). Works OK for now, but in the long run I sure want to have some more disk. My problem is the VIA VT8237S chipset on my ASUS mobo not beeing supported by the installer. Probably not by the current Debian distribution either. I googled and found some workarounds here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=22&DSCat=187&DCatType=3 The question for me now is wether I should wait for the 2.1 distribution to solve the problem or if I should follow the instructions and download and build the kernel myself. Any advice would be apreciated. Best regards Jeppe Gothenburg, Sweden

hum...

  • ttoine
  • 11/15/07
  • Thu, 01/10/2008 - 17:07
Too bad... I was a Ubuntu Studio devel (I am not anymore, I disagree with the team leader) and now I am looking for a more serious Linux distribution for my audio productions. This hard disk detection problem is the only reason for me to keep on Ubuntu at the moment on my workstation. I mean that I am an advanced user, I used to test a lot of hardware on Linux, I can do a lot of things under Linux, but I am not a "hard" tweaker. So, I will have to wait a bit for the new installer, I guess. Toine

Bite

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 01/04/2008 - 21:27
I have done something similar in the past. My Motherboard did not work with Studio64 because of a faulty bios. You shouldn't have problems. I believe the X issue is graphics hardware related. Check the FAQ. Cheers

Driver

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Wed, 12/12/2007 - 21:50
Have you tried the scsi drivers yet? They worked for me (if I remember correctly) Thats the beauty of linux. While I frequently had to reinstall the "Other OS", my workstation has been running for more than a year now with no typical "age slowdown"

Fixed - well - worked-around anyway!

  • genpo
  • 12/12/07
  • Mon, 12/17/2007 - 11:27
Hi, Well I got 64Studio installed in the end. Turns out the installer uses a kernel version from immediately before many SATA/AHCI issues were fixed, but the running kernel is three or four versions later when everything is OK. The trick in my case was simply to change a BIOS setting to set the SATA to emulate IDE mode, then do a normal install (everything went smoothly), reboot, change the BIOS SATA setting back to AHCI and everything is fine and dandy. Regards Steve Author of GENPO - the GENeral Purpose Organ - http://genpo.sourceforge.net/

SATA Installer

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Wed, 12/12/2007 - 21:40
This might be an installer issue. The installer runs an earlier kernel, that might not support your hardware yet! The live CD runs the current kernel, which has no problems... I'll open a ticket, perhaps free can upgrade the installer kernel

Can anyone tell me if this will work?

  • space_pirate_arrr
  • 12/03/07
  • Tue, 12/04/2007 - 00:03
What if I install onto a PATA drive, then copy the entire partition onto my SATA drive?

Same problem here ...

  • space_pirate_arrr
  • 12/03/07
  • Mon, 12/03/2007 - 10:37
The install goes smoothly until it's time to detect the hard disk, at which point I'm told my disk is not detected, and I am prompted to select a driver or insert a floppy with drivers. I have tried several of the options for drivers: generic, AHCI (with AHCI enabled in the BIOS), generic IDE, and some others. None of them work. I have tried a few different BIOS settings, including AHCI enabled/disabled and "Native IDE mode" enabled/disabled. My motherboard is a Gigabyte P35-DS3L, Core2duo processor. The disk is a Seagate SATA HDD which is on SATA controller #0. I am trying to install onto an existing partition. I can boot fine into Ubuntu (32bit) and WinXP installed on other partitions on the disk. So far I haven't found any mention of this issue on any Debian forums. Ubuntu (based on Debian and even using a virtually identical installer) installed fine. Maybe this is a 64bit issue? Any help would be hugely appreciated. I am really keen to get 64 Studio going.

My workaround... seems OK so far.

  • space_pirate_arrr
  • 12/03/07
  • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 03:42
I installed 64 studio onto a PATA drive, then cloned the partition onto my SATA drive using the gparted boot CD. With appropriate modifications to /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab I can now boot to a command prompt. X won't start, but I believe that's a separate issue. Can someone please tell me if I am going to get bitten by long term consequences of this?

And same here

  • genpo
  • 12/12/07
  • Wed, 12/12/2007 - 16:00
P35-based motherboard and the same issue with unable to locate an appropriate driver for the SATA HDD. So a complete show-stopper. Any known workarounds for this chipset? I'm really keen to move to 64Studio... Author of GENPO - the GENeral Purpose Organ - http://genpo.sourceforge.net/