piano and bass

  • alidh
Posted: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 12:01
Hi, I play the guitar by myself.. The drums comes from Hydrogen The organ from Bristol But where do I get the bass from? And the electric piano? Best regards, Dirk

Well, you can do a lot with

  • Link7881
  • 12/04/08
  • Thu, 12/04/2008 - 19:26
Well, you can do a lot with Rosegarden and it's not that difficult to make it work for you. But you have to know what you're doing to make things work just fine. TX Piano Teacher

Ok, I've sound now and will

  • alidh
  • 11/29/07
  • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 17:26
Ok, I've sound now and will continuing my exploring of Rosegarden.. Are there some examples of rosegarden to see what is possible and what sounds you can make with it using sf's (or VST is that possible too?)... How does Rosegarden compare to commercial software like Finale 2007?

I guess you have some reading to do...

  • Takabuntu
  • 08/20/07
  • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 12:43
You can do a lot with Rosegarden and it's not that difficult to do. But you have to know what you're doing. I takes some time to get used to a sequencer like Rosegarden anyway. The best thing is to start reading/skimming through the following tutorials/manuals, I think all your questions can be answered through these:
  • http://www.64studio.com/manual/audio http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/doc/en/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/en/chapter-0.html
  • You don't necessarily need QSynth to play soundfonts. Rosegarden can handle soundfonts through the Fluidsynth dssi plugin. My advise is to read the manuals. Rosegarden is a very good sequencer, but to make the most of it it's best to read the manual. All the manuals have examples and graphics and it's way better than waiting for us to respond.

    No I do not hear it...I

    • alidh
    • 11/29/07
    • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 11:17
    No I do not hear it... I think this is the part were it goes wrong... 'Go to Composition, Studio, Manage MIDI Devices. Below the header "Play Devices" you'll see the Devices and the Connections. Choose a Device, or add a new one and make up a name like "Qsynth" or "bass" or whatever, the important thing is that the Connection for that Device is 129:0 Synth Input Port (...) (write) or something similar.' How can I choose a device or should I just change nothing, so it will choose default? If I choose 'new', should I change the general midi device to 'no connection'? That is not possible and so I've two devices with the connection 129:0 Synth.... 'Then add a midi track. Right-click it and you'll see your Device with its 16 channels. Choose the Channel which coincides with an active channel in Qsynth, #1 in the above example. Edit the track in the matrix editor and click the keyboard. Do you hear it?' How do I ad a midi track? !! Messages in Qsynth gives: fluidsynth: warning: ALSA sequencer buffer overrun, lost events http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7568/rosegardenau1.png http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1378/jacksettinglb8.png http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3690/rosegardenjackconnectwr0.png http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1640/qsynthsetgq4.png

    ...

    • alidh
    • 11/29/07
    • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 20:59
    ...

    Commercial comparison

    • Quentin Harley
    • 05/24/07
    • Sat, 12/29/2007 - 16:37
    Couldn't say. Since I installed 64studio, I am doing everything I need to do in Linux. I think most of the serious 64studiers have. Sorry.

    Forgot to say that

    • Pablo
    • 07/11/07
    • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 01:36
    for the piano is just the same, you just need another soundfont (or another program/instrument from a more generic soundfont). I use Rosegarden for the drum parts because afaik it is not possible to change the tempo in a song, so I merge the previosly-exported-from-Hydrogen Midi file and so that I can have different tempos in the same song.

    Yes

    • Pablo
    • 07/11/07
    • Fri, 12/28/2007 - 01:23
    But Rosegarden alone doesn't make sounds. It needs a synthesizer, which certainly can be software. I think you can try Qsynth and soundfonts like Takabuntu has suggested. For the bass parts: The first step is to get a soundfont, this is a *.sf2 file. You can google "bass soundfonts" or you can get one from the site suggested from Takabuntu. There are lots of them. Just to try, download any of them. Start JACK and start Qsynth. In Qsynth go to setup. MIDI -> Enable MIDI input, alsa_seq, 16 channels. Audio -> Audio driver: Jack, sample rate, etc, as in JACK set up. Soundfonts -> Open the one you just downloaded. OK Setup. Then go to Channels. Check if there is a channel loaded with a bank, and program, and name, from a soundfont (the one you have) If not, click twice in any channel, for example channel #1. A window will pop up with one or more programs from your soundfont. Choose any. Start Rosegarden. Go to Composition, Studio, Manage MIDI Devices. Below the header "Play Devices" you'll see the Devices and the Connections. Choose a Device, or add a new one and make up a name like "Qsynth" or "bass" or whatever, the important thing is that the Connection for that Device is 129:0 Synth Input Port (...) (write) or something similar. Then add a midi track. Right-click it and you'll see your Device with its 16 channels. Choose the Channel which coincides with an active channel in Qsynth, #1 in the above example. Edit the track in the matrix editor and click the keyboard. Do you hear it? For the drum parts: Either you can use Qsynth + soundfonts, getting a soundfont with drums and loading another channel in Qsynth from that soundfont or you can use Hydrogen as a software synthesizer, again, in "Manage MIDI Devices", connecting your "Hydrogen" Device to the 130:0 Hydrogen Midi-in (write) (or similar) connection. I usually write the drum parts in Hydrogen, export the song as midi file, and then from Rosegarden merge the midi file as a new track, assigning to that track the Hydrogen device, which I connect to the Hydrogen midi-in. Takabuntu says he uses soundfonts from the drum parts too. Maybe my way is not the best one, but it works for me. By the way, you must also check the audio connections in JACK (don't bother with the Midi connections).The outputs of Qsynth and/or Hydrogen must be routed to the playback of your audio-card. Besides, it is important you start the synthesizers (Qsynth, Hydrogen) before starting Rosegarden, and JACK before the synths. I hope this helps for a start. Please share your music when you can. Pablo

    How can I make a drums- and

    • alidh
    • 11/29/07
    • Thu, 12/27/2007 - 21:40
    How can I make a drums- and a bass part in Rosegarden? Is that possible without hardware like a keyboard?

    Soundfonts

    • Takabuntu
    • 08/20/07
    • Tue, 12/04/2007 - 12:42
    I use soundfonts for most of my instruments nowadays using either Rosegarden or QSynth. I even use it for drums, 'cause hydrogen can't import midi and I'm too lazy to punch the notes in... The site sf2midi.com has decent free soundfonts (you need to sign-up though). There are also some commercial SF's available or you could build them yourself with Swami. There is of course also LinuxSampler that supports the gigasampler format, but there are not a lot of free samples available. You can also build them yourself with Gigedit, which hopefully will be added to the 64studio repositories in the future. The sample MP3's I heard from some commercial gigastudio files are sounding awesome, by the way.