Take a look at number 14 in the FAQs http://www.64studio.com/faq_user.
Open a terminal, become root and run synaptic. Just install KDE, like I did. There's no need to remove GNOME, you can change the WM for each session, when you are in GDM or KDM.

Cheers,
Ralf

Thanks, I'll try to "install" the nvidia stuff. Am I right in thinking this should be done with synaptic?

I would prefer to remove some things, any way to do that?

Also found out there are no sources for the kernel...and about 3 pages of modules listed when I run lsmod. That's about 2.8 pages more than before. So I guess that gcc etc isn't installed either, correct? Is there a way to set up a development environment with a few simple keystrokes? There are some apps I want to have that I know I'll have to compile.

Any idea how I make it boot with all messages visible instead of each time having to press F2?

Phew, this is complicated.

To remove packages you can use synaptic.

You can find the kernel sources and development packages from Assembler to svn, etc. if you will read how to use synaptic.

Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst if you aren't fine with F2, resp. Esc, change "splash=silent" to "nosplash".

If you're from Gentoo, I think you are kidding. I'm sorry if I'm wrong. Because I'm short at time, I'll help you within the next days, perhaps you should try to find some answers by using the Google.

Cheers,
Ralf

Well, when one is used to something you get stuck in the ways it works. I'm far from a proficient linux user, I only know enough to be dangerous. So it is hard in a sense as the simple problems I run into would have been solved in no time with the system I know. It will take a few months for the dust to settle.

On to a manual of synaptic.

Hi Havoc,

Software removal using apt-get remove --purge
$ = user # = root
Open a terminal and type:

$ dpkg --get-selections > software1
and again
$ dpkg --get-selections > software2

This will create 2 files in your home directory
software1
software2
These list the software installed, leave software1 alone.

# grep "ice" software2
# grep "cups" software2
# grep "blue" software2
# grep "bluetooth" software2
etc.,etc., only you know what is not needed.

# apt-get remove --purge (not needed software)

Watch very carefully for shared libs and others apt might try to remove.
This method will also keep a .bash_history of the software you have removed.

$ dpkg --get-selections > software2

again will update the file minus the software removed.

Cheers,

dave

To find out about your system
You can create a text file in your home folder
Open a terminal and type: or copy/paste

$ uname -a >system.txt
$ lspci >>system.txt
$ lspci -vv>>system.txt

This will create a text file.
system.txt

$ cat system.txt

Will show the contents of the file in the terminal.
You can post the parts you need help with, to the forum.

Cheers,

dave

Apparantly it doesn't find my video card... I want to install the legacy nvidia drivers, but whatever I try apt-get always says "couldn't find package". So or I'm giving a wrong command, or there is a setup problem.

I try to run "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64". (no use explaining synaptic as long as X doesn't start)

Your laptop should have the following graphics adapter:
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
The correct driver for your device is not included in 64 Studio yet... backporting issues. The legacy driver will definitely not work for you.

You will need the nvidia driver from the nvidia site.

The latest drivers will be included in the lenny based 64 Studio 3.0 coming at the end of the year. (The process has already started, and if you ask free nicely, he might build us a lenny backport for the latest drivers. You will just have to take the leap to 64 Studio 3.0 (very) beta...

Actually the graphics card is a GeForce 8400 GS 128MB.

Didn't had the order at hand yesterday, and now I don't have the laptop at hand to check if that one is supported.

Here is the contents of the nvidia-glx readme file, surrounding support in 64 Studio at the moment. The latest drivers on the nVidia site does support your card.

Appendix A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips
______________________________________________________________________________

For the most complete and accurate listing of supported GPUs, please see the
Supported Products List, available from the NVIDIA Linux x86_64 Graphics
Driver download page. Please go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html,
follow the Archive link under the Linux x86_64 heading, follow the link for
the 1.0-9755 driver, and then go to the Supported Products List.

NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x0040
GeForce 6800 0x0041
GeForce 6800 XE 0x0043
GeForce 6800 XT 0x0044
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0045
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0046
GeForce 6800 GS 0x0047
GeForce 6800 XT 0x0048
Quadro FX 4000 0x004E
GeForce 7800 GTX 0x0090
GeForce 7800 GTX 0x0091
GeForce 7800 GT 0x0092
GeForce 7800 GS 0x0093
GeForce Go 7800 0x0098
GeForce Go 7800 GTX 0x0099
Quadro FX 4500 0x009D
GeForce 6800 GS 0x00C0
GeForce 6800 0x00C1
GeForce 6800 LE 0x00C2
GeForce 6800 XT 0x00C3
GeForce Go 6800 0x00C8
GeForce Go 6800 Ultra 0x00C9
Quadro FX Go1400 0x00CC
Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 0x00CD
Quadro FX 1400 0x00CE
GeForce 6800 Ultra/GeForce 6800 0x00F0
GeForce 6600 GT 0x00F1
GeForce 6600 0x00F2
GeForce 6200 0x00F3
GeForce 6600 LE 0x00F4
GeForce 7800 GS 0x00F5
GeForce 6800 GS 0x00F6
Quadro FX 3400/4400 0x00F8
GeForce 6800 Ultra 0x00F9
GeForce PCX 5750 0x00FA
GeForce PCX 5900 0x00FB
GeForce PCX 5300/Quadro FX 330 0x00FC
Quadro NVS 280 PCI-E/Quadro FX 330 0x00FD
Quadro FX 1300 0x00FE
GeForce PCX 4300 0x00FF
GeForce 6600 GT 0x0140
GeForce 6600 0x0141
GeForce 6600 LE 0x0142
GeForce 6600 VE 0x0143
GeForce Go 6600 0x0144
GeForce 6610 XL 0x0145
GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE 0x0146
GeForce 6700 XL 0x0147
GeForce Go 6600 0x0148
GeForce Go 6600 GT 0x0149
Quadro NVS 440 0x014A
Quadro FX 550 0x014C
Quadro FX 540 0x014E
GeForce 6200 0x014F
GeForce 6500 0x0160
GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) 0x0161
GeForce 6200 LE 0x0163
GeForce Go 6200 0x0164
Quadro NVS 285 0x0165
GeForce Go 6400 0x0166
GeForce Go 6200 0x0167
GeForce Go 6400 0x0168
GeForce 8800 GTX 0x0191
GeForce 8800 GTS 0x0193
Quadro FX 5600 0x019D
Quadro FX 4600 0x019E
GeForce 7300 LE 0x01D1
GeForce 7300 SE 0x01D3
Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300 0x01D7
GeForce Go 7400 0x01D8
Quadro NVS 110M 0x01DA
Quadro NVS 120M 0x01DB
Quadro FX 350M 0x01DC
Quadro FX 350 0x01DE
GeForce 7300 GS 0x01DF
GeForce 6800 0x0211
GeForce 6800 LE 0x0212
GeForce 6800 GT 0x0215
GeForce 6800 XT 0x0218
GeForce 6200 0x0221
GeForce 6150 0x0240
GeForce 6150 LE 0x0241
GeForce 6100 0x0242
GeForce Go 6100 0x0247
GeForce 7900 GTX 0x0290
GeForce 7900 GT/GTO 0x0291
GeForce 7900 GS 0x0292
GeForce 7950 GX2 0x0294
GeForce Go 7900 GS 0x0298
GeForce Go 7900 GTX 0x0299
Quadro FX 2500M 0x029A
Quadro FX 1500M 0x029B
Quadro FX 5500 0x029C
Quadro FX 3500 0x029D
Quadro FX 1500 0x029E
Quadro FX 4500 X2 0x029F
GeForce 7600 GS 0x02E1
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra 0x0301
GeForce FX 5800 0x0302
Quadro FX 2000 0x0308
Quadro FX 1000 0x0309
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 0x0311
GeForce FX 5600 0x0312
GeForce FX 5600XT 0x0314
GeForce FX Go5600 0x031A
GeForce FX Go5650 0x031B
Quadro FX Go700 0x031C
GeForce FX 5200 0x0320
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 0x0321
GeForce FX 5200 0x0322
GeForce FX 5200LE 0x0323
GeForce FX Go5200 0x0324
GeForce FX Go5250 0x0325
GeForce FX 5500 0x0326
GeForce FX 5100 0x0327
GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M 0x0328
Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI 0x032A
Quadro FX 500/FX 600 0x032B
GeForce FX Go53xx 0x032C
GeForce FX Go5100 0x032D
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 0x0330
GeForce FX 5900 0x0331
GeForce FX 5900XT 0x0332
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 0x0333
GeForce FX 5900ZT 0x0334
Quadro FX 3000 0x0338
Quadro FX 700 0x033F
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 0x0341
GeForce FX 5700 0x0342
GeForce FX 5700LE 0x0343
GeForce FX 5700VE 0x0344
GeForce FX Go5700 0x0347
GeForce FX Go5700 0x0348
Quadro FX Go1000 0x034C
Quadro FX 1100 0x034E
GeForce 7600 GT 0x0391
GeForce 7600 GS 0x0392
GeForce 7300 GT 0x0393
GeForce Go 7600 0x0398
Quadro FX 560 0x039E

Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver.
These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA
GPU driver releases.

The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:

NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111
GeForce2 Go 0x0112
Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go 0x0113
GeForce4 MX 460 0x0170
GeForce4 MX 440 0x0171
GeForce4 MX 420 0x0172
GeForce4 MX 440-SE 0x0173
GeForce4 440 Go 0x0174
GeForce4 420 Go 0x0175
GeForce4 420 Go 32M 0x0176
GeForce4 460 Go 0x0177
Quadro4 550 XGL 0x0178
GeForce4 440 Go 64M 0x0179
Quadro NVS 0x017A
Quadro4 500 GoGL 0x017C
GeForce4 410 Go 16M 0x017D
GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X 0x0181
GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X 0x0182
GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X 0x0183
GeForce4 MX 4000 0x0185
Quadro4 580 XGL 0x0188
Quadro NVS 280 SD 0x018A
Quadro4 380 XGL 0x018B
Quadro NVS 50 PCI 0x018C
GeForce2 Integrated GPU 0x01A0
GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU 0x01F0
GeForce3 0x0200
GeForce3 Ti 200 0x0201
GeForce3 Ti 500 0x0202
Quadro DCC 0x0203
GeForce4 Ti 4600 0x0250
GeForce4 Ti 4400 0x0251
GeForce4 Ti 4200 0x0253
Quadro4 900 XGL 0x0258
Quadro4 750 XGL 0x0259
Quadro4 700 XGL 0x025B
GeForce4 Ti 4800 0x0280
GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X 0x0281
GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE 0x0282
GeForce4 4200 Go 0x0286
Quadro4 980 XGL 0x0288
Quadro4 780 XGL 0x0289
Quadro4 700 GoGL 0x028C

The 1.0-71xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:

NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
RIVA TNT 0x0020
RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028
RIVA TNT2 Ultra 0x0029
Vanta/Vanta LT 0x002C
RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro 0x002D
Aladdin TNT2 0x00A0
GeForce 256 0x0100
GeForce DDR 0x0101
Quadro 0x0103
GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro 0x0150
GeForce2 Ti 0x0151
GeForce2 Ultra 0x0152
Quadro2 Pro 0x0153

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver

Version: 173.14.05
Operating System: Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T)
Release Date: May 28, 2008

Release Highlights

* Added support for the following new GPUs:
o Quadro FX 3600M
o GeForce 9800 GX2
o GeForce 9800 GTX
o GeForce 9600 GT
o GeForce 9600 GSO
o GeForce 9500M GS
o GeForce 8400
o GeForce 8400 GS
* Added support for Quadro FX 5600/4600 SDI and Quadro G-Sync II.
* Resolved a bug causing left and right eyes to be reversed in stereo mode on some Quadro FX GPUs.
* Fixed a problem that caused OpenGL to stop rendering to windows with origins at or beyond 4096 pixels (horizontally) on GeForce 8 and 9 GPUs.
* Fixed a bug causing some Quadro FX 4500 SDI configurations to take a long time to achieve synchronization.
* Added preliminary support for X.Org server 1.5.
* Addressed a problem causing visual corruption when using GeForce 8 GPUs to drive Chi Mei 56" displays.
* Addressed visual corruption when driving Cintiq 20WSX wide format tables with some GeForce 6 and 7 GPUs.
* Fixed OpenGL rendering corruption with textures compressed using the DXT5 compression algorithm.
* Fixed a regression that caused invalid EDIDs to be detected for the internal display device on some notebooks.
* Improved hotkey switching and power management support on some GeForce 8 notebooks.
* Fixed a regression causing some GeForce 6100/6150 systems to fail to restore the screen after DPMS cycles.
* Fixed a bug that prevented the console from being restored correctly in SLI mode on GeForce 6 and 7 GPUs.
* Fixed interlaced modes on GeForce 8 GPUs.
* Fixed a problem that caused the synchronization signal polarity to always be positive for DVI devices on GeForce 8 and 9 GPUs.
* Resolved a problem resulting in X startup to fail on some GeForce 8 and 9 systems without swap space.
* Fixed a bug resulting in X crashes when using GeForce 8 and 9 GPUs in SLI to drive X screens at depth 8.
* Fixed a problem that caused TV output on secondary TVs to be black and white on some GPUs.
* Restored compatibility with recent Linux 2.6 kernels.

I'll get the drivers off the nvidia site then.

After a bit of messing X is now running. Nothing spectacular, download the Nvidia package, let it run and change the "nv" to nvidia" in the xorg.conf. Also commented out "dri".

Already 44 apps gone and 300MB freed... Next step is getting KDE and removing Gmone. Then setting up the development env to recompile the kernel. And trowing out a lot more.

Maybe setup sound as well :) That's for another thread.

Thanks again.

I have installed kde on my 64studio lenny upgrade by using
Synaptic as Ralf suggested and it worked like a charm.
Gnome is fine for my regular 64studio.
Adding Option "NoLogo" to xorg.conf is the only other change I make to my nvidia install.
You're system should be running sweet with all those extra apps removed.

Cheers,

dave

Yes, simply do:

sudo apt-get install build-essential

Cheers,

Bart

starting on it. I got a bit time today to put a few things in order.

Hi Havoc,

I have installed kde on a second 64studio lenny upgrade by using Synaptic.
I have never installed kde on a regular 64studio,
So this is just a guide.

KDE 3.5.9 install
Synaptic Reload
Mark install kde kde-i18-engb
352 new installed 528MB used
Apply.
gdm [keep]
All Done.

:ReStart computer:
Installed Crystal win theme and Oxygen icon theme.

For jackd to work in kde. You might have to..

# edit /etc/security/limits.conf (add to end of file).

@audio - rtprio 99
@audio - memlock 1024000
@audio - nice -19

It's a test disk here, so I played with the bootsplash.
Synaptic search "boot"
uninstalled bootsplash themes.
Opened a terminal:
su to root:

# cd /etc/init.d/
# ls -a
# update-rc.d -f bootsplash remove

Penguin still here? but I like it ;-)

Cheers!

dave

got it running and Gnome removed. Also added and removed a few other things. Now going further witht the audio stuff. Got to find back the options for snd-hda for my Stac. Got it written down "somewhere".

Edit: thanks for the additional settings for jack. They were needed. So Jack runs also now and I got sound out of the FA-66. Making progress.