Installing over an Ubuntu Studio installation.

Oh Yeah hw info helps too -ntel 2cd E6600 Proc #VG@ 680i SLI motherboard 8GB RAM Presonus Firebox 1394 audio interface $ony DVD/CD RW WD 400GB SATA HDD Half of the HDD is partitioned for 64 Studio and the other is for Ubuntu Studio. SWAP I dont know what that means but maybe I remember there being 12GB for each OS. Grub has quite a list of server and terminals to choose from. I have always been a bit weary of Grub wanting too much control.Or maybe no enough in this case? Any help is welcomed! Cheers, Patrick

My biggest issue is why are my BIOS settings being defaulted? OK my biggest issue is why are my BIOS settings being whipped to default each time I soft power off the computer? I called #vg@ and they say they don't support any Linux at all. I don't think OS is an issue here! BIOS is supposed to be separate and stand alone. I just flashed to the latest version and still it is going to default each time I soft power off. I may be mistaken though and I hope I am and can fix it somehow within 64 or Ubuntu Studios. Can GRUB mess with my BIOS settings? If so how do I change that or alter how it does do it? Maybe even Linux is the culprit and the questions I posed abvove apply to Linux as well. I am very new to both forms of Linux and need some guidance please. OH yeah I did replace the BIOS battery yesterday and still the same problem remains! I hate to think this hardware is only good for MS. Any help is welcomed! Regards, hm3

Hi Patrick ;-) Ubuntu is based on Testing/Unstable. Don't use the repo's. Yes I am on GMT. Openoffice is heavy for a recording studio. You have AbiWord pre-installed. You can install Openoffice & Opera if you wish. * flashplugin-nonfree Right click on your desktop and open a terminal. or: Menu > Accessories > Terminal login as root with: $ su # apt-get update # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree # dpkg -l | grep flash Will confirm it has installed. Xorg: # ls -la /etc/X11/ # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup # ls -la /etc/X11/ # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-backup # ls -l You should now see a copy of xorg.conf-backup in your user folder. It belongs to root... To change its ownership. # chown -R yourusername xorg.conf-backup # chgrp -Rv yourusername xorg.conf-backup # ls -l Now xorg.conf-backup should belong to you, you can edit it and save the changes. You can copy parts to the forum if we need them. Iceweasel and flash are always fine here? I browse youtube without problems. Open Iceweasel and visit this page to see if flash is ok. If not it will offer to install it for you. Once the install is complete close and re-open iceweasel before you use it. http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/ Cheers, dave Edit::: If at the log in screen [ctrl] + [alt] + [f1] keyboard settings are lost e.g. no "uk" # apt-get install console-setup On my system this auto configures Test by typing | @ " If not: # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup will take you through the setup. Take care, dave.

Dave are you at GMT time? I am GMT -5. Maybe you are in the US but I'm guessing you are in GB. I see something along the lines of 64 adopting ubuntu packages. I have to admit when I tried out ubuntu most thing I liked were the browser and office packages. I don't mind Iceweasle except for it's non ehistance of a flash plugin. For an office suite I wold prefer Open Office because of its compatibility with so many MS apps. It is open source so technically I could download 64 bit versions of them and manually install them. Am I even close? Openoffice and say Opera web browser would be tops. Anyone please comment on this. In the mean time I guess I need to buy a new BIOS battery. I am off to buy one now! Patrick

When I run "# cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf" the error message iget is: cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf1': No such file or directory" I did change Nvidia to nv using dpkg.reconfig-xorg.reconfig I think that is the command I used. Anyways the one where you have to choose a keyboard layout and the sort. No youtube for me because this browser has no flash plugin. I have to somehow manually install it somehow. Later Patrick

Hi Patrick, You're welcome ;-) Pat> "nvidia-installer was forced to guess the X library path ‘/user/lib’ and X module path ‘/user/lib/xorg/modules’ Did this message Halt the install?. If not continue with the install,.. see what it does. It might guess right!.. uninstall each time. You should have backups of your xorg, use the "original" before you re-try the older card install. The driver could be installing ok, and xorg might be failing? # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf Then change "nv" to "nvidia". Then try any other drivers. ##### * Pat> more interested in rehabbing my picking hand. The Cranial nerves go to the "hands" first! so you are on the right track here :-) Hand Conditioning, :Hz: 330 E*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! 247 B*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! 196 G*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! 147 D*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! 110 A*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! 082 E*!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----!-----! Tab: !---1---4---3---4---2---4---3---4---! move up one fret. Repeat. Notes: !---f---g#--g---g#--f#--g#--g---g#--! ##### Deep, but very interesting..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniosacral_therapy Body hand eye coordination. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeKl4GKUFdo&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WQt7Ag6NC0&NR=1 Take care, dave

Thank you for your help Dave. I am using my laptop to peruse the manual for 64 studio. Maybe I do need a new battery as the BIOS is well used. It was my first OC processor and video card on this motherboard in -p. I don't game much anymore, more interested in rehabbing my picking hand. I had a TBI in 2004, was in a comma for a month during which not one or two but three hurricanes hit my house. A little taste of Murphy's Law. Recovering and relearning to walk, talk and swallow were a breeze compared to finding a hand after a hurricane in Florida. Every crooked person comes out to take advantage of people like me. No I don't want any pity but I can overcome this problem with a driver. Regaining the rhythm in my picking hand is slow and arduous. I am now reading using another OS on my laptop. The best outcome would be for me to read and solve the problem myself. However, I am not turning away any help though. Cheers, Patrick

Upon installation of that older NVIDIA driver I got a warning message that read: "nvidia-installer was forced to guess the X library path ‘/user/lib’ and X module path ‘/user/lib/xorg/modules’ ; these paths were not queryable from the system. If X fails to find the NVIDIA X driver module, please install the ‘pkg-config’ utility and the X.org SDK/development package for your distribution and reinstall the NVIDIA driver." To some it may be a clear answer to my problem but I cant even learn hands on until it is finished installing. This is a 64 bit OS that should give me a Yes or No about the functionality after the installer. If it is not complete Stop the installation. I have an acoustic LR Baggs pickup I need to test and I will do so on my MS box. What a major mess this is, CLUSTER FUDGE! FUDGE is not the word I use but for decency on this forum so it is. My computer is acting all strange. Each time I shut down power my BIOS is wiped clean back to defaults. It is only a soft power down, I don't think it is a BIOS battery because from within the BIOS I have some settings saved and they are still there. However I have been wrong before. My goal before this weekend is up is to have that computer booting with saved BIOS settings and have the NVIDIA DRIVER INSTALLED. The logic why my BIOS is not saved because a video driver is not installed is mixed up to say the least. I have about had it with this whole thing. Weekend 2 of installing a video driver!!!! To even make things worse NO Firefox and NO Open Office, there is are not a Synaptic packages either, Ice weasel's Flash plug in is not functional. Somebody will have to pay me to work on this past tomorrow. I am not building this for browsing but if MS can have ALL these at their disposal for free we should too! I don't care about third party packagers. I don't see myself ever using the term "STABLE" to describe Linux. If this is meant to deter me, it is working. Any solutions to my above largest problems are welcomed. Pat/hm3

Hi Pat, Have you tried downloading the driver again in case it was a bad download? Better still uninstall the driver and try an older one. I think you should try this one first. While browsing the web it seems to report the best results. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.09.html Then you could try a newer one from here. Archive. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_amd64_display_archive.html Cheers, dave

To sit and read why I am getting an error signal 11 after I install the nvidia drvr. I input the correct specs for my monitor V&H-Sync and max res. God forbid I should have to pay for tech support but I will pay 64 Studio before I ever spend a penny on Macro Shaft. Don't ever buy OEM software from NE. The serial numbers DONT include tech support. Yeah NE is mainly selling their shaft... Their about as friendly as Musician's Friend/Music 123. Pat/hm3

You know the nv driver and vesa drivers worked. Will I notice a marked increase in performance in Video once it is installed correctly. I just need to include the [ctrl]-[D] every time I boot the nv driver. Anyone know how to make the ctrl-D maintenance ? Pat/hm3

I opted to use the Firebox as it is collecting dust next to my win boxes. It is no piece of junk so I want to see what it has. 5.1 ch is good for the ocassional movie but I only need a stereo in for now as my GM1000 outputs a stereo signal for most patches. I still have yet to see any guitar effects processor that stacks up to it Oberheim/Viscount's only regret with the GM1000 or GM400 is the manilla color. It was a big hit to initial sales. How many people musicians do you know that want an off white 2rack space DSP? Well after messing with it I do! The Gm400 is only one rack space. I have stage fright and record from my home. Pat/hm3

Yes I do need to learn the above! However I think, it will just be easier for us to start anew! So I have nothing but a fresh copy online with the 640x480 driver that works for now. Call me silly, but having come from W- I feel more comfortable diving off a GUI. If there is a driver or some precondition I need to prepare before installing the Nvidia driver example, the gcc program or a precompiled Nvidia driver. I will too be reading more about step three which should be read before step one. Thanks a lot for all your help so far Dave and Quentin! I've had much higher hurdles in life than this, can do! Pat

Did you use this when you first installed the driver? # dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Try it now, if "nv" doesn't work, try "vesa" driver. [ctrl] + [alt] + [f1] log in as root: # dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Good luck, dave

enjoy working in a terminal, it's a healing place, once you slow down. Their is a space cd[space]/home/dave/ $ ls $ ls / $ ls /home $ ls /home/dave $ ls /home/dave/Desktop Play around with this when you are logged in as you. (not root). # cd /home/dave/ Use [TAB] to autocomplete e.g. $ cd /ho [press TAB] $ cd /home will autocomplete. Learn slowly,.. I spend hours in the terminal. Once you get used to it you get things done better, faster if that's your thing. I think you are nearly there with your install. # halt # shutdown -h now Are commands to turn off the computer, (and restart) confusion is my bad typing, sorry :-( You just need to get your refresh rate configured. A fresh install will just get you back to the same place. It's because of your graphics card. Their is no rush, it's NOT a race. Their are web browsers that work in the terminal, some users never log on to a desktop! Cheers! dave edit: I posted at the same time as you. off to read your post now. back soon.

It reads: "If the setting is not correct, use your computer utility program to change the display settings. >Your TV supports multiscan display functions within the following frequency domain: Horizontal Frequency (kHz)> 30-60 Vertical Frequency (Hz) > 60-75 PC Maximum refresh rate (AT 60 Hz) > 1920-1080 It is a TFT LCD panel 46" Diagonal size. I have never had to adjust a PC to it before this. I don't know the Metric conversion of that off the top of my head. Not relevant I think? Cheers, Partick

Dave or Quentin or anyone, When I type "cd/home/(me)/Desktop" I get "There is no such file or directory" Maybe it's because the X desktop environment can't start? Also with my distro 2.1 of 64 Studio the command: # halt and restart, does NOT evoke a response. If it is easier to just reinstall 64 Studio AMD64 than try and repair the broken file than I can do that. Just tell me what precompiled nv kernel and gcc to download from Synaptic, if any. However I need to be able to recover my system from theses types of occasions so I am game to learning the trial ahead of me. I have an anxiety disease that tends to make me more willing to move on than stick things out and just be patient. I'm a Surgical First Assistant and in the OR there is 0 tolerance for error. And trying new ways of say reducing a fracture outside the tried and tested way is well practice but when a human is under the knife is not a smart thing. Since 1998 I have been retired because of the drugs I have to take, ethically I can't scrub into surgery and legally is questionable. DO I WANT A COOKIE? NO, just want to explain my impatience. However, like I said I can just wipe it clean and do a reinstall or we can press on with repair. Experience is what I need so what you think is best we will do. Cheers, Pat

examlpe xorg.conf The refresh rates are set for the monitor. # "DPMS" is commentet out. e.g.1 my good monitor. Section "Monitor" Identifier "hp L1702" # Option "DPMS" HorizSync 30-96 VertRefresh 55-160 This is what I think you will have to do. First you need to find the monitor specs. e.g.2 Lower settings HorizSync 30-75 VertRefresh 55-70 These are used on my older monitor. Dont copy/paste these, they look different in the file. You use [TAB] to keep the format right. Cheers, dave

The previous res it gave was 640x480 60Hz... Thanks! Pat

My monitor is a 46" Samsung HDTV. That has never had problems with any cards I throw at it. I think its refresh rate is 60Hz and full 1080p. I know it can handle far and beyond 650x408 60Hz res. GDay to you fellas! Pat/hm3

Hi Pat, You just follow the list as it is written. Dont do it again without uninstalling first. You "dont" need to do this...Just Notes... # cd /home/youruser/Desktop/ (or where your driver is) Just type # sh NVIDIA [TAB] should complete, to .run # sh NVIDIA-Linux-(yourversion).run --uninstall # cd /home/youruser/Desktop/ (or where your driver is) # init 3 # /etc/init.d/gdm stop # sh NVIDIA-Linux-NVIDIA-Linux-(yourversion).run # edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (yourself and change "nv" to "nvidia") # halt and restart Here we go..... [ctrl] + [alt] + [f1] # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup2 # ls -la /etc/X11/ default-display-manager xorg.conf = running now xorg.conf1 = "nv" xorg.conf2 = "nvidia" To use your backup "nv". 1: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nvidia" back to "nv" OR 2: # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf ReBoot... Parts of my xorg Section "Device" Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" Driver "nvidia" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "NoLogo" "true" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "hp L1702" Option "DPMS" EndSection ##### More Notes: for gdm repair. I dont think you need this. * gdm * # apt-get update # apt-get --reinstall install gdm I am on a testing system right now so I tested this anyway. [ctrl] + [alt] + [f1] # apt-get remove --purge gdm It wanted to take 64studio 64studio-skel with it, I typed y. Then # apt-get install gdm 64studio 64studio-skel I rebooted back into my desktop without problems...end notes. I agree with Quentin, its your xorg.conf. I think it might be the refresh rates for your monitor. ? What monitor do you use? When you're done you can test nvidia with: # glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes Cheers, dave

I believe something must be amiss in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Here is a copy of mine: http://apt.harleystudio.co.za/misc/xorg.conf hope it helps a bit...

Geo/HM3, I compiled my ATI driver on my wife's 64 studio box and the Nvidia driver on my own... Command can be fun and sometimes frustrating but frankly you know what is going on by reading and watching as it unfolds and compiles the program right before eyes. Linux is a stable system, especially 64 studio. i moved from Windows 5 years ago and have NEVER looked back. I converted ALL my windows drives to Ext3 partitions (this will save your loads of headaches), Converted my wife to openoffice, (she was running crossover office and microsoft office for a year or so) and now she is tickled to death with her linux box. Word of encouragement...Learn synaptics package manager, learn how dependencies work and most of all google google google!! If there is a question there is an answer. First off add this to your etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ stable main". This with the 64studio repositories is about all you'll need. Hang in there, Linux is fun and educational too! It's nice to be "free" of constant money hungry upgrades and bloated recording softwares that do little or nothing compared to Ardour, Jack, hydrogen and Jamin.

At the log in screen type [ctrl] + [alt] + [f1] to get you into the terminal.. login as root: # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup1 # cd (to your driver NVIDIA-Linux-(yourversion).run) # init 3 (Exits the X Server) # /etc/init.d/gdm stop # sh NVIDIA-Linux-NVIDIA-Linux-(yourversion).run # edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (yourself and change "nv" to "nvidia") # halt and restart If you reboot to a log in screen (no GUI) log in as root and change "nvidia" back to "nv".. ReBoot. Cheers, dave

I note the above and will make great use of it! Even though it is not win it helps to reboot every 8 hours or so. Today I have figured the same thing and maybe it just needs to be run in Terminal without gedit. I am suprised to see that there is some progress. However I cant install it unless I first exit X server. I will have to learn how to do that too. I will search "Exit the X Server" at Linux Questions and here. It is probably a smart think to know how to Exit X server. Thanks Pat

If you want to run a file you downloaded from the web, you need to tell linux that it is an executable. Right click on it and select "Properties". Then in the "Permissions" tab, make sure the owner (that's you) have rights to execute. If that is set, run it from command line: hm3@64studio:~$ cd Desktop hm3@64studio:~/Desktop$ ./NVIDIA…x86_64-173.14.05-pkg2.run Don't forget the "./" because that signals thet you want to run the file. Cheers

Exactly Quentin! This is why I am shying away from ms because increasingly one is forced to forums for answers or pay for their tech support. Like you said I want to be self sufficient so I will learn as much about Linux as I can. I am a gammer and don't see those moving here yet. So I will keep one ms machine. I was going to give this machine away to a friend that wants and should be recording every one of his sessions. However, I think I will keep it as a keepsake. My friend has no time to learn so I will send him my copy of Sound Forge or Cubase. I can only imagine how GNU/Linux was in 1990. Cmd Line just makes more senseto me! I am still struggling with the Nvidia driver and have followed their directions to the T. I am getting the same message I got with Ubuntu: "Could not open the file /home/hm3/Desktop/NVIDIA…x86_64-173.14.05-pkg2.run. gedit has not been able to detect the character coding. Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.Select a character coding from the menu and try again." UTF-8 & ISO-8859-15 get the same error message. Any suggestions anyone? Regards Pat

If you want to learn how to use and personalise linux to your wishes, the best way is to get your hands dirty. Like any good thing in life it will take some trial and error, but after a while you will find that you know enough to do JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. Example: I wanted a program to test my room response. After a quick search, I found Fons's Aliki. Downloaded source, built some dependencies from source (libsndfile beta) and installed. No problems, works a charm and even supports jack. Took me all of 20min to get it going from when I decided I needed a room response analyser. Welcome, and if you need any assistance, do a search in these forums, or give us a shout! Cheers,

Quentin I want to apologize for my last! I want to be a productive member of the Linux community. Making the transition from Win has been trying at best. Many people I have run into are willing to help. The logic of linux is right on and there is no BS shell to require antivirus. I want to compute the logical way and forego the MS bad habits. I found all the info on the nvidia website. Hopefully I can get the driver installed by downloading it to my Win desktop and burning it onto a cd for 64. I hope nothing will get lost in translation. If you or anyone reading this know an easier way to transfer the driver file from the nvidia website I am game to a suggestion. Remember I am new to Linux so navigating to the file using a cmd line is stretching my abilities at the moment. I have to commend NVidia for releasing this driver knowing greenhorns like me will be trying to twist it every waY POSSIBLE. GIVING IT A SHOT! HM3

Can you at least point me to an article regarding this issue. If not how are you so sure my problem has been solved by other articles? I did what this site/manual appendix recommends for my problem and now I am like a dog chasing its tail. Reconfiguring the X server file does not install a driver. If that is what is needed then show me where sir. Also I am sorry for having new equipment! I will search for the file myself but I stop short of putting on a Member's Only jacket. HM3

is your new(ish) graphics adaptor. You need to install the latest nvidia drivers from the nvidia website. This has been discussed in the forums quite a few times already... Give it a shot

I am VERY new to Linux and so far not impressed with Ubuntu Studio and becoming just as discouraged with 64. I thought I should give 64 a try. I have after installing 64 I accessed the installation manual's appendix Troubleshooting and have run " # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and saved the settings using the commands in the install index. Still "Failed to Start the X server". The instructions in the appendix of the install manual have me running a pointless circle!!! First my hardware is: Intel E6600 2cd EVGA 680i SLI MB EVGA nVidia GeForce 8600 Vid card Audio: is a Presonus Firebox that is not connected until I get the X server working. I am very close to 69ing all of this and going back to Sonar 64 on my Windows machine. Sombody please throw some logic into the mix now. HM3

Hi Geo, Seen your posts at linuxmusicians. Welcome. I am very happy with 64studio for my audio work, although, honestly, I keep a dual boot with, until recently Debian Lenny, now Ubuntu 8.04. For audio work I use 64studio only and I am very happy with it. I can use 64studio also for internet, and lots of things (openoffice of course) but I prefer a dual boot with a generic kernel in a more updated distro for non-audio applications (latest gnome, compiz, and things of the sort). See the installing instructions in the manual. My recommendation is manual partitioning and have two partitions in your "Linux hard drive" (apart from swap, you can leave alone the swap you had from your previous linux installation,it will be formatted anyway). One of them mounted at / and another one at /home. Leave some free space if you want to. Choose ext3 for both of them and format them. Don't worry about the boot loader you currently have. The 64studio installer will recognise your Windows system (the same as ubuntu did) and will install another grub loader which will work just as well. Just say "yes" to the question "¿do you want to install the grub loader in the MBR of your first hard drive?" near the end of the installation. The 64studio installer (actually, Debian etch installer) looks more primitive than that of Ubuntu, but it does basically the same. Cheers Pablo