Burning audio CD with tags

  • t_sysimetsa
Posted: Wed, 08/06/2008 - 13:11
Hi, I'm trying to burn audio CD's from FLAC files so that the tags (title, artist, etc.) of the songs would be included. I have exported the songs from Audacity in FLAC format. At this stage the tag information is included in the FLAC files. However, after burning a CD with GnomeBaker the tags are not transferred to the CD. Instead, when I rip down the CD to eg. OGG-format, the tags of the songs tell that the songs were made by an artist called FREETONE and the song names are something in Japanese. Well, this is not the case :) Could anyone help please?

Re: Easytag?

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Sat, 08/23/2008 - 11:41
Thanks picothinker, but this is a different case. Easytag works fine when tagging ogg's or mp3's. When you burn a CD from "tagged" wav-files and then try to rip that self-made CD down to e.g. ogg or mp3 format, the tags have disappeared. Instead, the ripper program (like Sound Juicer) tries to fetch information on artist, song names etc. from CD Database (http://www.cddb.com). If it does not find your information, it will fetch tags of any album in the database, which has song lenghts approximately the same as yours. This will bring you strange results. In order to have your own songs added to CD Database you have to have ISRC codeset, obtaining of which can be free or not, depending on what is the policy in your country. CD Database is owned by Gracenote®, which is a subsidiary of Sony Corporation. There is also a non-commercial alternative for CD Database called Musicbrainz (http://musicbrainz.org), which is supported by many Linux applications, but surprisingly, not by the most common Windows audio programs.

Easytag?

  • picothinker
  • 08/22/07
  • Fri, 08/22/2008 - 02:39
I haven't worked with ID codes for a complete album, but http://easytag.sourceforge.net (Linux and Windows versions available) will let you tag every field that can be tagged.

Re: ISRC

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Fri, 08/08/2008 - 09:42
Thanks, i will consider this. (ISRC, not moving to SA at the moment, though :)

ISRC

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 08/08/2008 - 09:32
Still worth it. That is your code for life (if it's your music) You can make clients pay for their own codes then. Or perhaps you could move to South-Africa. Last time I checked, the codes are free here.

Musicbrainz

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Fri, 08/08/2008 - 08:36
Good to know about Musicbrainz. Many Linux applications support it, but the most common Windows applications do not? So, my friends who use Windows and rip the CD will not receive the correct tags? http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainzEnabledApplications ISRC code costs 25 euros in Finland. Tricky... Maybe my next release should be on vinyl ;) Anyway, thanks for info! Very nice that an alternative to CDDB exists.

Very easy...

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 08/08/2008 - 06:03
Register as an editor at http://musicbrainz.org/ I successfully added the "Hallelujas" project disk a while back. Just remember that registering a compilation CD comprised of music by various artists, without their permission is illegal, and is frowned upon. Your own music is OK though. Another way to ensure that your disk is recognized correctly is by obtaining a ISRC codeset. This is a free numbering system which you can obtain from a regulatory service in your country. When you have your codeset, your track can be assigned a unique number, and just by having the code, any database with access the the ISRC database will know the who and when of the track... The Hallelujas CD was registered under the artist's name for the ISRC codes. http://musicbrainz.org/release/37234c0e-254d-4f1e-a74d-dd4e371c12c4.html Happy editing

Is there a solution or workaround?

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Thu, 08/07/2008 - 21:31
Then, how can you tag an album? How can you get that id code for your own album? I reported this same issue at: http://www.64studio.com/node/470 Cheers Pablo

CD database

  • t_sysimetsa
  • 06/13/08
  • Thu, 08/07/2008 - 21:16
Thanks Quentin! Interesting, this is the first time I came to know about CD database (http://www.cddb.com). Wikipedia: "CDDB (which stands for Compact Disc Database) is a licensed trademark of Gracenote, Inc. It is a database for software applications to look up audio CD (compact disc) information over the Internet." Gracenote: "Gracenote®, a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Corporation of America, powers the biggest names in digital media with leading edge technology solutions." From K3B the CDDB connection can be disabled, but I could not find such option from Sound Juicer. Well, it is not such a big deal for me to have metadata / tags in the CD, but anyway I think this CD database system treats us "unofficial" music makers rather strangely.

Don't know gnomebaker...

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 08/07/2008 - 19:45
The problems is not with the writing application, but with the cd database. When you grab music off such a disk, it looks for the CD id code, which the disk does not have, not being a mastered cd. Next, it looks for a disk with the same amount of tracks, and the same (or closest) matching track lengths. Something is going to fit it, and in your case it was the Japanese album...