64 questions

  • 64chambers
Posted: Thu, 01/22/2009 - 16:02
I was just looking at the package list for 64 and I realized that 64studio seems to be only for audio editing and not geared toware video is that correct?

Q and CH I Have tried booting with Vista install dvd to no avail

  • hm3
  • 07/23/08
  • Thu, 03/05/2009 - 04:10
As you may have heard VISTA IS A MAJOR CLUSTER F*&# and They made a lot of money because of it. Even with the new SP1 the install disk is still outdated and full of roadblocks. I lost .5TB of recording data because they are trying to fight the LINUX crusade. Rightfully so Linux is just LOGICAL and OPEN. I have yet to get a recording on Audacity because of too many video problems. I have a better vid crd NV7950GX2 that is easily accepted into the ubuntu studio. I suppose it will do OK with 64 studio 3.0 and even the debian. One thing that annoyes me is that recording software for ANY MS OS is very expensive and I have a lot of it and now broke. So you may understand why I am so determined to make XP even work. However I am having many problems getting XP to now boot. I just changed the battery on the MB and I am still getting CMOS checksum errors on post. I know very little about software and am be calling ASUS(MB) and or Samgung(500GB HDD). I have narrowed my choices to these. Also I WILL try the Supergrubdisk if it is free. I am tired of computers and need to jam! I can do that without recording in my studio. I will followup and keep ya'll posted on any fix if any.... Padric

hmmm from my personal

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Wed, 03/04/2009 - 07:12
hmmm from my personal multibooting experience any windows version must be installed on the first partition. IN this order XP then Vista then windows 7 then come your linux distros or other distros. Windows always needs to be first for some reason. To repair your mbr all you have to do is " For Windows Vista: Boot from the installation CD/DVD and enter “Repair Windows” link at the left hand bottom of the dialog. Then go to command prompt . There run “bootrec /fixmbr” and “bootrec /fixboot” commands one after the other. That does it. " I have no real experience with vista, I decided to skip when I did my build. Glad I did :) Windows 7 here a come. After you fix windows you can use a liveCD distro to get back to grub, but one step at a time.

To get back vista

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Tue, 03/03/2009 - 05:41
I do not have any experience with Vista, but I bielieve it would work roughly the same as XP in this regard. There are two ways you can fix this little problem. 1) Look for "Super Grub disk" You can fix the pointers to linux and windows by using this tool NB: If Vista does not show up as a boot option during the grub recovery process, go to the next solution... 2) Use you Vista boot CD/DVD and somewhere in the dialogue, select "Repair current installation" This should fix things up (for vista at least - 64 Studio will not boot anymore) MS does not like to share ;-) Not to worry though. After doing (2) you can do (1) to get 64 Studio back again!

I have no experience in

  • Pablo
  • 07/11/07
  • Mon, 03/02/2009 - 21:37
I have no experience in Vista and Linux on the same machine but if this doesn't help, at least it won't hurt: Edit with "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" file and check: 1) the timeout value is so low that the options are not even shown? This value should be 8 or 10 (meaning seconds) at least. Let's hope you are lucky with that. I once encountered 3 seconds and that prevented from launching any OS other than the default one. 2) Of course, check if you have a line beginning with title Windows Vista Reboot. If that doesn't work, post the contents of that file, only the uncommented lines please. I guess very few people here runs Vista. Please don't take it as "nobody wants to help me". You don't say what version of 64studio have installed, which is very important at this point. If you are trying with 3.0, it is ubuntu based. Ubuntu forums would be a good place to look at in that case Cheers. Pablo.

Oops forgot this

  • hm3
  • 07/23/08
  • Tue, 03/03/2009 - 02:57
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. ## default num # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used. # # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'. # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your # array will desync and will not let you boot your system. default 0 ## timeout sec # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry # (normally the first entry defined). timeout 10 # Pretty colours color cyan/blue white/blue ## password ['--md5'] passwd # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the # command 'lock' # e.g. password topsecret # password ----- # password topsecret # # examples # # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000 # root (hd0,0) # makeactive # chainloader +1 # # title Linux # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro # # # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs ## ## Start Default Options ## ## default kernel options ## default kernel options for automagic boot options ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted. ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro # kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent ## default grub root device ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0) # groot=(hd0,0) ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. alternative=true ## alternative=false # alternative=true ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. lockalternative=true ## lockalternative=false # lockalternative=false ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the ## alternatives ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 # defoptions= ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options ## e.g. lockold=false ## lockold=true # lockold=false ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenhopt= ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenkopt=console=tty0 ## altoption boot targets option ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options ## altoptions=(single-user) single # altoptions=(single-user mode) single ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the ## alternative kernel options ## e.g. howmany=all ## howmany=7 # howmany=all ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option ## e.g. memtest86=true ## memtest86=false # memtest86=true ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system ## can be true or false # updatedefaultentry=false ## ## End Default Options ## title 64studio, kernel 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 savedefault title 64studio, kernel 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 (single-user mode) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 savedefault title 64studio, kernel memtest86 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86.bin title 64studio, kernel memtest86+ root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST"

Thanks for your help Pablo

  • hm3
  • 07/23/08
  • Tue, 03/03/2009 - 02:49
The version of 64 Studio is 2.1 I think but I know it is Debian. I Myself am begin to whoder why I pay MacroShaft for Vista. However, ALL of my work is on Vista now. DO NOT GO THERE EVER too much headaches. I tried the gedit and was able to change the time os 10 seconds instead of the 5 it was set at. Gedit grub DID NOT list Windows Vista in its file. Upon rebootoing I still cannot see ANY MS OS. I still am hopeless but a little more informed using the command you shared. As you may well have noticed I am GUI window dressing clueless person, only because I bought into . I tried calling MS for support but because the coppy of Vista I have is an OEM version from Newegg thech support is not provided. What do you sugges I pay 64Studio for support or MS? Padric

Please Help!!

  • hm3
  • 07/23/08
  • Mon, 03/02/2009 - 21:18
My MBR for Vista is all messed up, GONE! I have 64 on a separate partition on the same HDD. NO replies to any of my questions posted 14 hours ago. Obviously I must pay for 64 Studio help. MS VISTSA 64 was a royal pain to get running. Much of my work is there but the Vista install disc is disintegrating and is of no help because it cannot be read by any DVD drive. Maybe Ubuntu Studio can help?

I have a problem after I installend 64, Vista wont boot

  • hm3
  • 07/23/08
  • Mon, 03/02/2009 - 20:27
I have a problem after I installed 64, Vista wont boot. I do need vista to work too. 64 is on a separate partition than Vista so in theory GRUB SHOULD LIST IT as a boot up option. The HDD is 500GB partitioned 140GB for 64 and the rest for Vista. When installing 64 it said GRUB can easily be fixed to boot either or. ANY HELP IS NEEDED AS I HAVE WORK I NEED TO ACCESS IN VISTA! PLEASE HELP ME REPAIR MY MBR!!! I dont want to repair Vista because it will ruin the64 install and video card fixes I have made. ANY HELP! Padric

lol I am back with no tunes

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Mon, 03/02/2009 - 15:21
lol I am back with no tunes but more questions. I am trying to setup my fstabs to mount 2 partitions automaticall at log on. I can't seem to get it to work. Maybe cux I am using default settings? Also it says it doesn't recognice ntfs3g. Is this is not in 64studio? Also does 64 studio have a music group like on youtube or Vimeo? Ithink that would be a great way to showcase what people are doing with 64 studio...

Great

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 02/06/2009 - 05:55
Nice to hear you are up and running... Now to get down to making music!

I take back everything I

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Fri, 02/06/2009 - 00:08
I take back everything I said about the debian installer. Turns out I that I had some incompatible dvd-r disk. The disk was currupt every time I burn it causing incomplete install everytime I installed. Good work guys. Harley you are my hero!

kernel

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 02/05/2009 - 11:59
The Multimedia kernel is a real time kernel, (RT) which means that time critical operations (like audio or video) gets the lions share of the core to complete its tasks. This has better quality multimedia as an effect. The display driver is out-dated, and this will be addressed when 3.0 beta is made available. In the mean time you can get it going following one of the many how-to's for your graphics card..

you know what the problem

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Thu, 02/05/2009 - 07:27
you know what the problem was, I had to format the partition before the installation went through. Lol my bad!. I guess it would not work with the formation I gave it in gparted. But new question I installed with the multimedia kernel. What is the diff between that and regular kernel? Also I the xserver won't start and I seem to have nothing in my xorg.conf. I gonna follow the ho-tos and see if I can resolve the xserver problem

You know you are right. But

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Tue, 02/03/2009 - 21:53
You know you are right. But I still favor the Gnome installer. Not that setting grub is difficult it's just that I don't want to keep over writing the MDR. lol ok thanks I won't post back here till I get it running.

Does Grub see all your other OS installs?

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Tue, 02/03/2009 - 05:22

If Grub sees all the other installs you might want to give it a go. It will create entries for all the other installs on the disk, with 64 Studio as the default. This can be changed quite easily later... If is doesn't see the others, you can install without grub and use another boot manager to catch all...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/

Hope you come right.
Q

ok thanks

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Fri, 01/23/2009 - 16:43
ok thanks

Oh man so close. I through

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Tue, 02/03/2009 - 01:46
Oh man so close. I through most of the installation until installing the grub boot loader part. I was trying to install on my logical partition number 11 and it would not let me do it. I don't want to install grub on the primary partition cuz it will mess up my multiboot setup. So close but so far. Any suggestions? Maybe you guys should switch to the gnome installer. It seems to be more forgiving?

Depends.

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Fri, 01/23/2009 - 05:57
You will probably have to pay for a distro that includes some of these better video editors because of licencing fees. You are however free to install the software form different places, like in the how-to. This frees the company to deliver a high quality distro for free, and you can still have the system you want. On my home system I have everything I need to to studio quality audio work, video work and combination work. It is possible... Also see the 64 Studio 3.0 wish-list, and let us know which video production packages you would like to see in the future versions of 64 Studio. We will do our best to include as much as possible, and then supply the rest via easy to follow how-to documents.

so would I be better off

  • 64chambers
  • 11/13/08
  • Thu, 01/22/2009 - 20:46
so would I be better off going to a red hat distro? it seems everyone is switching to debian now a days

mostly...

  • Quentin Harley
  • 05/24/07
  • Thu, 01/22/2009 - 16:57
Some of the more powerful video applications are either not in debian etch, or not completely free. There is a how to to install cinelerra in the tutorials section.