64 Studio 3.0 Beta 2 released

Hi Justin, Don't allow the kernel or linux-rt to upgrade just yet, If you have upgrades available, apt-get or install them but leave the kernel & linux-rt for now, development is ongoing with the kernel & upgrades are problematic. It would be great to hear how the beta & kernel perform on your system. This was my beta2 upgrade this morning "without" kernel linux-rt. $ sudo apt-get install 64studio flashplugin-nonfree kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a linux-libc-dev tzdata Setting up 64studio (3.0~pre10~hardy1) Setting up linux-libc-dev (2.6.29-2) ... Cheers! dave

Installed beta2 tonight. It was a MUCH smoother install than beta1, so congratulations, guys! I noticed that xorg.conf by default had a naked configuration (no drivers, modes, nothing), and I had to run 'Xorg -configure' to correct the issue. I will get to some testing when I get some time . . . maybe this weekend. So far a basic listen to some audio files sounded fine, but I'll get to some serious testing later. Talk to you folks later, Justin

Hi, LAUWannabe wrote: I've not tested everything yet but the Freewheeling application doesn't close. Same here! Does anyone else see this? Michael wrote: The only one which has any effect is the acpi=off option. The kernel here has changed, acpi etc., is working on this machine now. There's tickets being reported all the time, keep checking, (see the link at the bottom of my last post). "timeline". Tickets #462 kbuild #456 Other menu #454 F-spot (mono) Cheers! dave

Hi All, Clean install beta on second partition. kdelibs-data 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1.1 kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1.1 64studio30alphabeta snd_ice1712 "nv" boot: add: vga=791 acpi=off noapic Beta kernel shows marked improvements when compared, Setting boot options and verbose. The desktop is tuned stable, hungry for a project. No graphics binary drivers installed. Quentin wrote: This kernel runs wonderfully on my main system (Athlon X2 3800+) More powerful system without overclocking. [.....] snd_ice1712 "nv" The kernel is working well on my system also. The System-base is sound. A real pleasure to use. Just as you say, "More power without overclocking". 2.6.29-1-mm-686 Re: 2.6.26-1-mm-686 ('rm 2.6.28-rt & 2.6.29-rt kernels') Cleaned up a bit... I think played a major part. Removing and cleaning has worked. 2builds 1 change. Re: kernel package upgrade issue. It's tempting to say remove and reinstall the kernel. I would just reinstall again if this failed. It's good to have a repair kernel when testing. 2.6.26-1-mm-686 has worked for me. AlphaBeta testing: The beta and kernel are working fine. We've had, The change from etch to hardy, newer hardware-software etc., New kernel. It's good to see more installs happening and fixes on the go. The new kernel should sit nicely in 3.0. Cheers! dave.

Dave, I've tested with variations of the three boot options you suggested - individually, and all three together. The only one which has any effect is the acpi=off option. The only effect it has is to delay the freeze for a few seconds. Without it, as soon as gdm runs the machine freezes. With it, the display remains blank but I can toggle caps-lock for a while and even initiate an SSH session to the machine (I'm using wired ethernet now). But after a few seconds the machine locks up and the SSH session becomes unresponsive. Looks like I'll possibly have to wait for an updated proprietary NVidia driver which compiles against 2.6.29. -- Michael Pacey

OK I got my linux-source installed, I had to actually compile it in order for the nvidia installer to compile the modules. (They changed the output since I last did that). The nvidia module built but wouldn't insert, complains about missing symbol i2c_adapter_add. There's something I want to watch on TV now so I will try your acpi suggestions tomorrow evening and post back. Thanks again for your help. Michael Pacey

Hi Michael Use the 'e' edit key at the bootscreen, enter these below, try one at a time, to see if it changes the behavior at all. acpi=off noapic pci=noacpi Happy building, keep posting, the information is used. You're welcome & it Sure is:-) Cheers! dave

Hi Michael, Free wrote: Does passing options to the kernel at the boot prompt, change the behavior of X. When you installed and fixed the earlier installs. Do you have an backup xorg.conf from those installs. Cheers! dave

Now I'm confused, there's no 2.6.29 on ftp.kernel.org or it's mirrors. Ah, it's an rc, available only as a patch. So I'm now apt-getting the source from you, which will take 40 minutes over my mobile broadband. Michael Pacey

Hi Dave, Not sure what more details I can give about the freeze, I boot the system and as gdm starts, the screen goes blank as usual but stays that way until and only if I hit the power switch. The keyboard is inoperative (I'll spell it out, CTRL-ALT-F1 has no effect, CTRL-ALT-BKSPACE has no effect, CTRL-ALT-DELETE neither, and the wee green lights don't go on and off when I hit CAPS LOCK or NUM LOCK.) It's a Freeze! This isn't the first time I had this with the Free Xorg drivers. I've had the same with earlier kernel versions but the reliable fix is to install the NVidia proprietary drivers, and I can't because I can't build them due to missing linux-kbuild-2.6. If you have any suggestions how I might fix X without installing the proprietary drivers please let me know, in the meantime I will read your kind link and see where it gets me. Don't worry about the wireless, I'll be able to fix that too when I get my kernel-headers. 64 studio is my favourite ever distro in over 10 years using GNU/Linux but for some reason it's always a struggle getting hold of the linux headers and source. Actually, i might just try installing the full source and see if that lets me do it. -- Michael Pacey

Hi Michael, Can you post more details about X freezing. linux-kbuild-2.69: We're still alpa\beta testing. Trying to install nVidia comes all in good time, I can see your having trouble with X so trying the nVidia as a fix. I've never tried this but here's a link I keep ending up on. Near the bottom of the page "The story of linux-kbuild-2.6" Try to figure the X issue, it needs sorting first. I don't use wireless so can't help with practical help, as the alphabeta release moves on hopefully issues get fixed on the way. The Installer and grub are improving all the time, I was impressed also at the last install. Cheers! dave

Hi, Installing 3.0 beta 2 amd64 from ISO. I have Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS. X startup freezes my machine hard, so I enter maintenance mode to install binary Nvidia drivers. Doesn't help that there are no drivers for my RALink wireless card (I use rt61pci from source in 2.1, but I thought this went mainline in 2.6.24?) Anyway, I'll worry about that later, I have a fully working 2.1 install on another parition so I boot into that to download the Nvidia drivers. I download the installer, copy it into the 3.0 beta 2 partition, reboot and run the installer. Oops, it wants the kernel headers to compile the module, but they're not installed by default. Boot back into 2.1, chroot into the 3.0 beta 2 partition and try to get the headers: root@64studio:/# apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.29-1-multimedia-amd64 The following packages have unmet dependencies. linux-headers-2.6.29-1-multimedia-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.29 but it is not installable E: Broken packages At this point I phone a friend: you. Any clues? (On a positive note, despite installing onto the non-boot drive in a machine with two SCSI drives split into about 8 paritions and various Windows and Linux operating system images on various paritions, the installer correctly identified where my GRUB was and update the boot menu appropriately with no user interaction whatsoever. I was impressed.) -- Michael Pacey

Hi 64studio packages upgrade & kernel tests. Ardour is dealing with multi tasking Desktop use. This upgrade I felt 64studio's impact on the alpha/beta release. The 64studio package. $ dpkg -s 64studio Used: 2.6.26-1-multimedia-686 (rm 2.6.28-rt & 2.6.29-rt) $ sudo dpkg -i 2.6.29-rc4-rt2 build-2 1000hz boot: ro qjackctl idle no project = max = 3% qjackctl idle with open project = max = 7.2% qjackctl ardour coldduck-unmastered project = max = 8.8% The levels are the best to date, not by much, but they are. The desktop is not as mellow as 2.6.26, 2.6.28, 2.6.29. High resolution type of feeling, audio seems better, desktop very energetic. One change = 1000hz Today multitask with coldduck-unmastered project play/looped and it's fine, no problem. If I had to find a negative I would say the graphics is highly refreshed & excited. Kernel influence? qjackctl ardour coldduck-unmastered project = max = 8.8% qjackctl ardour coldduck-unmastered project = stable = 8.4% 64studio installer is improving, The system settled here. The Menu choice is improving packages improved. Target is stability, so pdk can do it's part. The "timeout" & "inst-boot-options" Are the final steps you have to build a stable base. You gotta luv pdk. testing 64studio. Very good. Keep up the Great work. Cheers! dave

Hopefully this helps with the "no installable kernel" problem. I'm looking forward to trying this out. Thanks for the update

Hi Quentin, Great news :-) Download iso: 64studio_3.0-beta2_i386.iso 600.2M 23-Feb-2009 Kernel: 2.6.29-1-multimedia-686 Clean install on PC Studio Graphics "nv" snd_ice1712 (48k) Install finds other OS's and adds them to Grub menu.lst. boot verbose error message: kernel_maps.protect = 1 $ sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf (comment out kernel_maps.protect = 1) Gnome icon in main menu. Compiz is disabled by default. sudo defaults are already set to 64studio preferences. Sources.list has 64studio entries. Change to gb SetUp Audio preferences (48k) System hung on shutdown boot verbose on first shutdown Use [ctrl]+[alt]+[del] to *Reboot* from verbose screen. Envy24control had defaulted volumes to 0. Reset Volumes using Envy24control Download: jam-ard-tutorial.tar.gz Import coldduck-unmastered.wav into Ardour project. Whilst web browsing editing files & multitasking qjackctl & ardour coldduck-unmastered test project = max = 9.8% System Halted ok. The first hang on shutdown seems to have been a one off maybe it was because it was the initial boot after install, it's fine now. My first impressions are that the 3.0-beta2 release is a fine release and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the users get a chance to take it for a spin. Nice work as always 64studio & Thanks :-) Cheers! dave